Children of the Underworld
My cover for @cosmiccowzine ’s PJO zine!
a family can just be….
for april fools we’re deleting this entire site sayonara you weeaboo shits
It’s heeeere
Check out Red, a new song I wrote about Shiny duo’s Wild Life feud. The fantastic art (seriously, this whole thing would be nothing without the art) was done by @boxofoxberry and it’s been an absolute delight seeing it come together! So excited to share it with y'all!
Lyrics under the cut!
Last night I dreamed, Dreamed of a world much like our own A world besieged, A world on fire, a world aglow And as I watched, I saw two figures, rise from the ashes Astounded, I watched as they rounded on each other I watched as one turned on the other, To save another, I watched as she died I watched the fire fade from her eyes And when I woke, I woke and saw you through the dark A world reborn, A world where we are worlds apart
Over the mountains, Over the rivers Riding beside you, Follow the whispers Over the midnights, Over the moon Are you still listening? Are they still watc hing you?
Oh when we were together, we were ride and die We were stormy weather, We were dynamite We were stuff of legends Back when we were friends But you said we can’t talk until your blood bleeds red
Do you still hate me? Will you forgive me? Do you still need me? Do you still want me? Please say you want me Say the game will never end, The score can be reset, Your heart’s still in your chest, Pull another from the deck
Ain’t no bleeding, Ain’t no fighting, Ain’t no crying, Ain’t no dying Say, until this whole thing ends, please ust say we were friends
Over the hunger, Over the pain, Riding beside you, Like nothing’s changed. Over the bridges, Over the trees, Are they still following? Can you hear me?
Oh when we were together, we were ride and die We were stormy weather, We were dynamite We were stuff of legends But stories have to end And we were reunited ’til your blood bled red
We climbed the highest mountains, Then fell the greatest height A world that turned to chaos, And rolled unlucky dice We were stuff of legends, and we will be again But you were only human, and your blood bleeds red
soemeoensn TO RANT TOOOOK imma start dumping poems alr (life series themed)
martyn, lim life.
A crown of coral greets thee,
thine sin being of wrath
and gluttony
You swallow the seconds like a starved madman
and your sounds of glee only grow more wretched.
For living
for persevering
for having human spirit-
that is your crime
an unforgivable offence.
Your eyes are glossy with the past
Your hands marred with blood of the future-
which part of you stands in the present?
hehe!
Jimmmyyyy
You carry me down to the mine
to the caves and dark
lest the air snuff you out
But see- my wings aren't built to fold and never fly
My feathers are yellow like the sun i never see
and when I choke on cobwebs and dust
forgotten bones and rotten memories
you leave my body there,
a warning to those who come next
and a reminder of what once was.
But I were to leave
I'd soar through the air,
trade your life for mine.
My songs wouldn't stop,
and I wouldn't mind if your chest stopped while mine glinted in sunlight.
Yet the life of a canary is not so gifted-
as I will be caught again
and I will still say goodbye
to cloudless skies
as gaping dark swallows me whole
that's all I got for now :3
holy shit, I'm gen up speechless, I've always admired people who write poetry and this is genuinely amazing imo
looking through your docsuma tag.....love them. wish they had one more combined braincell so they could realize their feelings
HERE'S THE THING THOUGH OKAY the problem is actually that they're both too smart about their feelings. you've got me down a horrible rabbit hole okay let me do my best to explain without being a freak(reading this back over, i failed <3).
Xisuma takes longer to realize, first of all. He's got so much to deal with coming out of s8 and through the beginning of s9 that quite frankly he's really just grateful to have another friend he can count on and trust, and he's so consumed by getting the androids back in working order on top of his actual season 9 plans (on top of Cleo shoving self care down his throat and demanding that he make a better habit of taking breaks and taking care of himself, which takes a LONG time to adjust to, if it can be argued that he ever does) that he doesn't really realize he's developed feelings for Doc until his heart beats him over the head with it randomly one day. Probably sometime in S10. Even then, because of said busy-ness, I think Xisuma has a very hard time getting over the meta-ness of a creator developing feelings for his creation and the selfishness of that reality amidst all of his other responsibilities, and he is likely too scared/overwhelmed to entertain the thought of the feelings themselves, much less the likelihood of reciprocation or the fantasy of a relationship.
Doc, on the other hand, realizes he is developing feelings for Xisuma kind of steadily throughout the course of s9, since that's when they start spending so much more time together in the lab working on androids and improving android tech. As a general statement, Doc is very aware of himself, all of the time. His awareness of the self is very important to his sense of normalcy and control, so any time he experiences a new emotion, he notes it, logs it.
So, while he's very aware of the feelings he's developing as they happen, he doesn't quite put a name to it/realize what it actually is until he talks to Tango and Etho, funnily enough--It's definitely one of those moments where Tango or Etho or whomever are explaining their struggles with the physical manifestations of their... idk, lovesickness-- ie, thirium pump rate irregularities, temperature fluctuations, influxes of feelings they've described as a combination of longing, affection, want, happiness, yearning... and Doc, as the unbiased third party to put 2 and 2 together, explains to them that those are obvious signs of romantic attraction, only very belatedly realizing several hours later that those are the exact symptoms he hasn't quite been able to put a name to. Naturally he's exceptional about being quiet about this realization until he slips up during a maintenance check-in with Tango sometime after, who is not doing well in s9, and Tango (mid romance-ranting) catches the passing of a wistful expression on Doc's face and calls him out for "totally thinking about someone right now" (Teasing aside, tango promises to keep Doc's secret).
So, despite knowing well his feelings before X ever develops his own, Doc is actually very, very careful about them-- He knows more than anyone else how busy Xisuma is. He knows how stressed X is. He also knows Xisuma seems to be more knowledgeable when it comes to emotions and feelings, and despite the clear signs that Xisuma shows interest(?) in him as well, Doc can only assume there is a good reason nothing romantic has happened between them-- he trusts Xisuma more than anything, and he--firmly-- will not breach this trust by acting on something Xisuma does not seem to be ready for (or does not seem to want yet(yet?)). Therefore, Doc is patient, and even though as Season 10 develops and Doc becomes aware of the likelihood that Xisuma could return the feelings, he trusts Xisuma's emotional intuition more than anything. He, painfully, recognizes Xisuma's discomfort (or hesitation), concludes that there must be a missing variable in this equation he cannot grasp, and decides to let Xisuma lead because of it. He will not push farther than he feels Xisuma has.
It's definitely one of those "fell first" "fell harder" type situations I think. I'm normal about them. can you tell
if you're talking people not seeing the difference between character and CC, then why don't we bring up Martyn getting death threats for playing a villain. I think the problem you're trying to talk about is more universal and is mainly happening outside of Tumblr (reddit and youtube comments). the OP of the post politely corrected you on the things you just assumed or attributed to them from other people, and you just disregard it all to talk about how they're actually an evil liar who is responsible for Scott's mental health or smth. You're trying to put your hate of this person in a pretty wrapping paper, thinking that makes you a better person. Why do you even think that negativity will kill negativity? If you were actually talking to a massive cc!Scott hater, what do you want to do? Bully them? A hateful mob will do more harm to the CC in question. No one wants to be a part of the "toxic stans". You're just averting all the potential Scott supporters by focusing on the haters. And Scott isn't a child, you can't protect him from people going into his chat or private messages and saying mean things. What's more, trolls love attention, and you're just handing it to them on a silver platter. Instead of crushing the floor underneath your own feet, it's better to uphold the foundation by building a healthy and strong community. There will always be haters and there will always be divergence in opinions, you can't control that. So make a safe space for yourself and others, be the person you want to be, accept people trying to grow.
I would talk about Martyn. I just have been focused on Scott. Martyn receiving death threats is awful. Anyone receiving death threats is awful, especially if they haven’t done anything to hurt anyone. My focus being on one person in particular doesn’t mean that I’m ignorant to it happening to other people. I’ve just noticed that it happens to Scott a lot when he’s doing the exact same things that everyone else in the series is doing and that many of them are praised for.
Obviously the problem is more universal than Tumblr??? I have never said that Tumblr is the only problem.
I responded to OP politely and explained why I feel the way that I feel about the situation. Disregarding is not the same as disagreeing. I didn’t call OP an “evil liar” nor did I say they were responsible for Scott’s mental health. I said that referring to a real moment as a “character moment” doesn’t excuse removing the context of a friend teasing a friend and doesn’t excuse villainizing the person. Scott usually isn’t playing a character. He’s just having fun with his friends, and a lot of people like to take that out of context. The same goes for Martyn. And Pearl. And Scar. And Gem. And Cleo. As for the “mental health” part, I would rarely say that one person on the internet is responsible for another’s mental health. I would say that making hurtful posts towards someone who has done nothing wrong with thousands of other people is a pretty fucking awful thing to do to someone. When I said that these posts are “affecting the creators”, I did not mean that they have depression over these posts. I meant that they have stated that they have avoided teaming with certain people because they get criticized for it. Scar especially has been talking about how frustrated he is with the fandom being overly critical of the creators.
I hope you understand that “analyzing Scott’s character” and then only referring to moments when Scott was distinctly not playing a character is the exact same as “putting your hate for this person in a pretty little wrapping paper”.
If I were actually talking to a massive cc!Scott hater, I would have to see what they have to say. If they’re targeting Scott for things that everyone else in the series does and being playful with his friends and they’re taking his teasing out of context, then I would point it out. If they’re just not a fan of Scott’s style or content, that’s a different thing entirely. That’s none of my concern.
My focus isn’t entirely on Scott haters? I have loads of posts that aren’t about Scott haters. If you think that me explaining that a post is hurtful is equivalent to me calling one person responsible for someone else’s mental health, then I don’t know why you think that I’m responsible for Scott’s whole fandom.
I know that Scott isn’t a child. Adults deserve to be defended too, especially when they haven’t done anything wrong. The main problem that I tend to try to address is that Scott gets targeted for things that his friends are praised for. In particular, a lot of people villainize him for teasing Jimmy, but those same people praise Grian, Joel, Martyn, etc. for the exact same thing. That’s clear homophobia. Scott doesn’t have to be a child in order for me to be disappointed with people taking his teasing out of context but leaving everyone else’s teasing out of context because they’re stereotyping the confident gay guy. In the case that referring to, I was referring to a post that was criticizing Scott’s “character” during a non-character moment and wasn’t addressing that Joel, who they were defending, was equally “guilty”.
Nurturing a community comes with tackling some issues within the community. I have lots of posts that bolster the community, and I have some posts that criticize people who are being horrible to some of the content creators. Pretending that all I do is be mean to people isn’t helping anyone, including yourself.
A divergence in opinions isn’t the problem. The problem is that a lot of people are being terribly critical of the creators and are trying to hide it by referring to real interactions without any kind of roleplay as “character moments”. That’s not a divergence in opinions. That’s taking a normal interaction out of the context that it was between friends and criticizing a real person for a decision that they clearly made out of character. It’s one thing to see someone playing a character and comment on the character’s actions. It’s another to see two people having fun as themselves and rebuke one of them despite the obvious friendliness of the interaction.
I am not going to be a safe space for people who are mean, intentionally or not, or outright cruel to people who haven’t done anything wrong, especially if they’re taking a friendly exchange out of context. That is not my obligation. If you’re going to be mean, you need to expect me to be mean right back. If you are genuinely trying to grow, that is a different story entirely. Most people I’m criticizing have no intent on changing their mind, and I’m going to be equally stubborn. I’m not going to create a space that’s passive to unfounded accusations. Please don’t ask me to tolerate the intolerant.
I get a little aggressive when I feel like someone has made unjustified accusations. This is probably not going to change any time soon. Criticizing the lack of fairness in accusing innocent people of horrible things is a fundamental part of who I am, for better or worse, whether you like it or not, and sometimes I go a little overboard. I apologize if you feel like I was over the top, but you’re going to have to deal with the fact that it isn’t going to change. I am not a perfect person, and so doing what I think is right may not always go well. Sometimes I make mistakes and go a little too far. That does not change my beliefs surrounding the issue.
Bringing attention to trolls is bad, sure. I believe that most of the people I am addressing genuinely believe that they’re in the right. A lot of Scott hate tends to come from internalized homophobia. People need to get that in check. Sometimes that means being direct about how much of a problem it is. If you don’t agree with me, then you can go your own way about it.
If you don’t like the space that I’ve created, then you don’t have to be here. Quite frankly, I’ve never expected any of my posts to get more than 10 notes. You can block me if you want. I’m sure lots of people have, and I have blocked lots of people just for mostly making posts about things I’m not interested in without tagging them. I don’t have to be apart of your community. It’s okay to block people to tailor your feed. You can also do this, I suppose. It’s the internet. Just don’t threaten people.
I hope this clarifies some things!
I swear in every single version of their myth things are real messy- so yeah boom! JUST GET MARRIED YALL ALL THREE OF YOU! Things are platonic with Hepheastus but I like to imagine the other two jokingly make corny flirty jokes at him just to mess with the grumpy forge cat. And once again, honest conversation and polyamory saved the day.
Okay okay I've got one I think will be fun!!
Spin this wheel of like 160ish fandoms of varying levels of popularity.
Extra points for telling me all about your thoughts in the tags :D
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