“Watch Where The Birds Fly, They Will Lead Us To Land, There We’ll Hunt For Food My Second In Command”

Everyone who either has listened to the Ithaka Saga already or who plans on listening to it PLEASE DO NOT GIVE SPOILERS. Despite the Odyssey being a well known tale, we don’t know Jorge’s plans with the saga. Please please PLEASE be considerate.

Minding my own business re-listening to Warrior of the Mind, and I noticed some fun details

Firstly: The “danger is close” motif plays when Odysseus is telling Athena to show herself.

Secondly: Once it’s been confirmed that our main man Ody has gaslit Athena, his motif plays after he does his lil laugh (because he just outwitted Athena). Additionally, his motif continues into the “You are Athena!” Portion of WOTM.

I might be late once again but I think it’s neat. Jorge loves his recurring melodies and motifs and I do not blame him :)

PLEEEEAAAAASE KERMIT AS ODYSSEUS I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED IT

OR HAVE THE MUPPETS AS THE CREW OR SOMETHING

I would kill for a Muppets Odyssey movie

I highkey picked up the Odyssey interested in how the source material differs from Epic. I cannot express how accurate this is and how much whiplash these past two sagas were.

Number 1 Rule of adapting the Odyssey into EPIC is: if it can be more dramatic, it will be more dramatic.

The Greeks decide to throw the infant Trojan prince from the walls because they're scared he'll try to avenge his family? No, Zeus comes down to personally give Odysseus a vision of being killed and says his family WILL die. Kill the baby that reminds you of your son right now, it's the gods will.

Odysseus goes to greet the inhabitants of an island and gets trapped in a cave for two days by the cyclops that's eating his men one by one? Nope, we got BOSS BATTLE 30v1 in the Ithacans' favour until BAM fourteen pancakes are made by Polyphemus' club and oh shit Polites is DEAD-

Athena is just vaugely absent for the whole journey until the end? We got emotionally charged platonic breakups instead, with yelling and insults and "well I'm breaking up with you FIRST!"

Smooth sailing to Ithaca? STOOOORM-

Odysseus' great-great-great-grandfather giving him a speed boost to help him on his way home? Get ready for trickster wind gods, mischievous winions, and a game that was rigged from the start.

Random-ass suspicious and greedy crew mates open the bag? It's Eurylochus, his second in command, his brother-in-law, the man he trusted, Eurylochus WHYYY

Parking in the wrong harbour and getting boulders thrown at the fleet by angry man-eating giants while Odysseus backs away veeery slowly? Nah Poseidon himself pulls up to dunk on them, and Odysseus has to make a last minute getaway using the power of STOOORM to avoid being curbstomped like his fleet.

Odysseus gets some stronger drugs from a god to make him immune to the other drugs of a goddess? Well these drugs actually give him magic powers which he uses to engage in a Pokémon/Yu-Gi-Oh style BOSS BATTLE!

Get some closure with dead loved ones and acquaintances, and be the first interviewer of the fallen heroes of past ages? Nope, we just got TRAUMA and a whole boatload of guilt!

A neat outline of what the rest of the journey will look like, a warning against an island of cows that will slow him down, and the way to appease Poseidon? This Tiresias just says "Y'know there used to be a world where you made it home, BUT I DON'T SEE IT NO MORE. IT'S GONE. IT'S OVER. Also, your palace is fucked."

Sailing past the sirens while getting to be the first mortal to hear their song and live? M U R D E R

Sailing past Scylla to avoid Charybdis and accidentally getting six men eaten because he thought he could totally take Scylla, even though Circe said he couldn't, and then he realised he, in fact, cannot take Scylla? ... Eurylochus, light up six torches.

Eurylochus waits till Odysseus is out hunting and then goes behind his back to mutinously rally the crew and feast on some sacred cattle? Betrayal on both sides, stabby stab, K.O., and then Odysseus helplessly watches them make the greatest mistake of their lives as they ignore his pleas.

Quick clean and easy lightning-strike to the ship, leaving Odysseus to cling to some driftwood and paddle away? Zeus himself appears to the mortals, monologues, makes Odysseus be the one to choose, and then smites the whole ship leaving Odysseus to nearly drown anyway.

Telemachus gets advice from a disguised Athena to yell at the suitors and then sail away to look for news of his missing father? Telemachus gets into a full on beatdown with the suitors and gets FIGHT CLUB TRAINING from Athena!

Athena goes "dad I want my favourite mortal back? Did you forget about him? I think you forgot about him" and Zeus instantly replies "nonsense. How could I have forgotten that funny little mortal? Of course you can have him back my sweet favoured child <3" and then Athena skips off to Ithaca? "Father please-" "LIGHTNING BOLT! ANOTHER LIGHTNING BOLT! LIGHTNING BOLT TO THE FACE HOW DARE YOU ASK ME OF SUCH A THING!"

Poseidon does a double take "wait they let him go?? Oh hell nah!" and then sends a giant fuck off storm for Odysseus to swim through until he reaches the Phaeacians? No, Poseidon's just been there on Ithaca's shores, waiting for eight years, now get in the water BITCH- except Odysseus is just like "oh yeah? Fucking FIGHT ME"

You thought the suitors in the Odyssey were bad? Jorge really just said "dial that shit up to ELEVEN"

Odysseus really was sick and tired of Polites haunting the narrative huh?

Watched The Return. Movie looked gorgeous and the actors were good, but dear god I haven’t been this disappointed in a while.

guess you could call that a. shippy cup

I know of the 600 Shade theory, but I’ve never actually heard of Hades being the one to release them.

I have heard everyone's theories and I raise yall:

Why is everyone so obsessed with breaking Telemachus’ bones. Boys, get more creative if you’re gonna threaten a prince, come on😂

charybdis my beloved 🫶

also the song is SO GOOD too like every single part of it is a masterpiece in itself I love iitttt

Lowkey best song in the ace grace saga in my opinion. From the super epic(pun intended) action bits to Odysseus reassuring his wife that he’ll be home soon it’s just *chef’s kiss*