PEOPLE.
hi hi hello its me, im back, i breached containment, im here to yap about tim drake again bc hes my favorite and i have latched onto him.
first of all, let’s draw a line between fanon tim and canon tim. personality wise i dont know jack shit about canon tim… but angst wise? oh boy.
the amount of unexplored *angst potential* truly drives me insane.
like, i love lonely neglected gremlin tim. i enjoy reading about the effects of jack and janet being negkectful. but in canon, they werent. ya know what trauma tim DOES have related to his parents in canon? jack dying.
because that was his father. under his protection. and he failed. jack died on his watch, when it was his job to prevent it. combine that with so e sweet sweet angst about needing to be useful? you get tim drake who has dedicated his entire life to being able to protect people, and you get him utterly failing when it matters most. you get tim drake who became useless and it cost him his dad.
i want tim drake who does not believe he is worthy of robin. he forced himself in, and the second he failed people around him started dropping. like. flies. jack, steph, bart, kon, bruce. i always see ppl characterize damian as being insecure abt robin, which, like, to an extent he is. but. but tim, tim who believes he will never be worthy of the title. tim who does not believe he has a place in the family.
i love fanon dont get me wrong. ik a lot of ppl hve prkblems with it (valid ones tbh) but its how i was introduced to the fandom and i love it. but canon is being neglected. and we should fix that.
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UPDATE: I FUCKING FOUND IT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
"how's it go again" by timdrakesuperspy
https://archiveofourown.org/works/51354226/chapters/129765949
there's this one tim drake dimension travel fic where he gets yeeted to a dimension with a better batfam by mr. mxypltzk (how tf do you spell that) and bart and kon come with him. i remember specifically there's this one scene where tim is practicing in the batcave and the alternate batfam are just... appalled by the amount of force he's using. because they Don't Do That in their dimension.
AND I CAN'T FUCKING FIND IT. I CAN'T FIND THE FIC. IT BRINGS ME GREAT PAIN.
i don’t understand people who read a fic, love it, and then don’t kudos it. because when i read something, clicking kudos is kind of just. part of the reading process. i don’t even have to like the fic all that much. as long as i didn’t hate it it’s getting a kudos.
because someone out there wrote that. someone out there is refreshing their email, waiting to see if anyone has read their work. if anyone thought it was beautiful, compelling, funny, thought-provoking. someone out there is waiting. and i click kudos so they don’t have to wait anymore.
elaborate????
I can't tell if this is a healthy distraction because I am stabbing myself but it's not on purpose
i despise when people say that tim is boring
because, no???
people have just decided that all of tim's character traits are just favoritism.
literally had this exact fucking conversation with someone a few days ago:
"i don't like tim because he's boring."
"oh, why?"
"he doesn't have any character traits."
"yes he does. he sees himself as a sentient tool, consistently chooses others over himself, is one of the few characters who actually understands the symbols of batman and robin separate from the people in the suits, is a detective equal to and sometimes better than batman, he's great at hacking, he constantly makes new allies and is a big part of the reason batman has a support network."
"no, that's just from runs where tim was unfairly favored."
"ohhh. i see. you decided that tim doesn't have any character traits because when he is respected as a human being and not just a Tool for the characters you like better and can, you know, show his character traits, you have decided it is favoritism and doesn't count. let's not think about the 10~ years when tim was a fucking background character and basically Didn't Matter in comparison to the more popular characters. that wasn't favoritism towards anyone at all."
this is far far far too accurate for my taste
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uh huh. I'm delusional. and we definitely did NOT read the same comics. because that was indeed abuse. that was verbal abuse.
damian took every oppurtunity he had to insult and demean tim. he did this specifically to tim, with the intention of causing him harm. that is abuse.
(please note that I am talking about Early Damian. like, when he first arrived at the manor. he character developed After This. this is even pre-damian-becoming-Robin.)
First of all, let’s define an abusive relationship. Okay? “Abuse” is not characterized by- say it with me now- age, gender, strength/size or otherwise more “common” depictions of an abusive relationship. “Abuse” is characterized by a- say it with me now- POWER IMBALANCE. Got it? Good.
Now, let’s examine Damian and Tim’s relationship to see if there’s a power imbalance with one simple question. Do they both have the power to redefine this relationship? In the case of Tim and Damian, the answer is no. An immediate follow-up to this question should be: who has the power to redefine the relationship? The answer is the more powerful side of the power imbalance, or, more often than not, the abuser. In the case of Tim and Damian, Damian is the one with the power to redefine the relationship.
Why? Because a), both Tim and Damian’s adults (Bruce, Alfred, maybe Dick) are unwilling to balance the relationship (giving them both consequences for cruelty, no favoritism, etc.), b), Damian does not accept anything Tim says- if Tim is polite, he’s being patronizing/condescending and it’s his fault, if Tim’s rude he’s being cruel/unfair and it’s his fault, if Tim’s indifferent he’s being cold/unfair and it’s his fault- as a genuine effort on Tim’s part, meaning only Damian has the power to change their dynamic.
Just because Damian is younger than Tim does not mean that Damian is incapable of being abusive towards Tim. It reminds me of a dynamic in which the “softer” one, e.g. a wife or in this case, a younger sibling, is abusing the “tougher” one, e.g. a husband or an older sibling, and the victim of the abusive is not believed because the “softer” one obviously can’t be an abuser. By excusing Damian’s actions you are practicing abuse apologism. This is Very Fucked Up and it is Not Okay. Just because DC seems to think it is okay and the majority of the fandom brushes past it, it does NOT MEAN that it is not abuse apologism.
I am not blaming Damian for any of this. No one has ever bothered to explain to him that his actions are wrong or explain why they are wrong. However, that does not absolve him of responsibility. Responsibility is not the same thing as blame. In this case, responsibility means an actual, genuine apology on Damian’s part. Responsibility means acknowledging it was wrong of him to abuse Tim, it means an actual change in behavior going forward, and, specifically for Damian, it probably includes therapy.
Abuse apologism is not okay. I need people to understand that Damian was abusing Tim. There is no excusing or sugarcoating it. Damian. Abused. Tim. I need people to understand that. Yes, Damian can accept responsibility (and the ADULTS- Bruce, Alfred, maybe Dick- need to accept the blame) but that does not change the fact that in the beginning, He Abused Tim. Yes, Damian can (and should) make a change, and that change should be reflected in his characterization, but if one were to write him in the BEGINNING he would still be abusing Tim. I am not demonizing him by writing this. This is not me bashing on the character. This is me defining his canonical behavior. This is me telling you all that Damian was entitled and spoiled and rude and cruel and ABUSIVE.
I need you to understand this.
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“too wayne family adventures” like that isnt also a valid piece of media that people put hard work and dedication into
I really don't understand people bitching about Batman stuff being "non-canon compliant" like worstie, there are eighty years of canon to go through.
Half the stuff you're complaining about being "out of character" and "too Wayne Family Adventures" was canon in the Silver Age era.
Shut the fuck up and let people vibe.
come on op drop the rest of the essay
Dick was the last to be adopted, Jason became the black sheep post-resurrection, Tim made himself Robin, Damian was dropped in Gotham after ten years of being kept secret, Cass possesses killer instincts that run counter to Batman's philosophy, Duke is a meta whose parents are still alive (albeit jokerized), and Steph has zero legal connections to the Waynes. All of the batkids have reason to believe they're the only one Bruce doesn't want around and Bruce is unaware of the problem because they don't vocalize it not just out of the usual emotional constipation, but also a deep-seated fear of being proven right. In this essay, I will—
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