I’m a bit ahead of schedule but that’s ok cause you know what, you get your daily meme:
(OG meme below due to popular request)
lmao i remember this was somehow the first entry of Och-Kan's diary i read?? (in game)
(keep in mind i'm not brainrotting abt the team yet and not suuuper familiar with Natlan lore)
so i'm just like, awww that is really cute i'm really fond of "continuing to protect the dreams of someone you loved who died"
imagine me reading the rest
like
Okay. Thanks a lot for @antea21 🫡 because man, I found out something really interesting.
MILD SPOILER FOR 5.5 SAURIAN WORLD QUEST AND OTHER SAURIAN WORLD QUESTS CHAIN, ESPECIALLY: "Shadows of the Mountains", "For the Night, What is the Night", and "Moment of Awakening"!!!
After we finished the 5.5 World Quest, Titu (the guy from the Khaenri'ahn soldiers quest, "Shadows of the Mountains),
and also one of the humans Kukulkan used as disguise, said this:
To be honest, to me, it sounds like what Chiyo said in the 5.4 Mikawa Flower Festival after she was freed by Raiden Ei... waking up from a long dream...
But what's gobsmacked me though, was not Titu, but another human we suspect to be a disguise of Kukulkan.
Legba. The guy from the Wayob in the Scion of the Canopy's old temple quest, "For the Night, What is the Night". His dialogues haven't changed.
His dialogues:
This is so disturbing for me. Why Titu was changed but not him? Shouldn't also be freed from Kukulkan's grip, right?
But this got me thinking... perhaps Legba isn't Kukulkan's puppet.
He's Xiuhcoatl.
"Radaedan what the fuck are you saying bro😭 get a grip. Stop overdosing on copium-" HEAR ME OUT FIRST BRO😭
• In his quest, Legba said this:
"Brilliant children"? If he was Kukulkan, this doesn't make sense. Och-Kan was his only son, and as far as I know, the new lore doesn't contradict this.
Also, I take a liberty to see of the name which Legba was inspired of:
Papa Legba is a lwa [Voodo Spirit], or loa, in West African Vodun and its diasporic deritatives... Legba is a favorite lwa of children due to his jolly, grandpa-like image. He is often tasked with babysitting and distracting children (a typical male role in the matrilineal religion) while more serious rituals are being performed by the adults.
"Papa Legba" - Wikipedia
Beside Hoyo's interesting decision to use the name of an African spirit for a white NPC😀, I just couldn't wrap my head of Kukulkan being described like this. Compare this to Titu and Manqu's historical counterparts:
Don Diego de Castro Titu Kusi Yupanki was an Inca ruler of Vilcabamba and the penultimate leader of the Neo-Inca State. He was a son of Manco[Manqu] Inca Yupanqui, He was crowned in 1563, after the death of his half brother, Sayri Tupac.
...Cusi is the "narrator" and source of An Inca Account of the Conquest of Peru, a firsthand account of the Spanish invasion, narrated by him in 1570 to Spanish missionary Fray Marcos García and transcribed by Martín de Pando, his mestizo assistant.
"Titu Cusi" - Wikipedia
Titu Cusi became the ruler after his half-brother's death. Kind of like Kukulkan acting as the regent during Xiuhcoatl's absence. Cusi being a "narrator" and source of a historical account also fits the in-game Titu's role as storyteller.
Manco Cápac (before c. 1200 – c. 1230; Quechua: Manqu Qhapaq, "the royal founder"), also known as Manco Inca and Ayar Manco, was, according to some historians, the first governor and founder of the Inca civilization in Cusco, possibly in the early 13th century. He is also a main figure of Inca mythology, being the protagonist of the two best known legends about the origin of the Inca, both of them connecting him to the foundation of Cusco. His main wife was his older sister, Mama Uqllu, also the mother of his son and successor Sinchi Ruq'a. Even though his figure is mentioned in several chronicles, his actual existence remains uncertain.
"Manco Cápac" - Wikipedia
Founder and ruler are still within Kukulkan's range. Incest aside, being co-ruler with your siblings also fit Kukulkan and Xiuhcoatl's dynamic.
But, the name Manqu wasn't had only been held by one person.
Manqu Inka Yupanki (Quechua) (around 1515 – 1544) (Manco Inca Yupanqui in Spanish) was the founder and monarch (Sapa Inca) of the independent Neo-Inca State in Vilcabamba, although he was originally a puppet Inca Emperor installed by the Spaniards. He was also known as "Manco II" and "Manco Cápac II". He was one of the sons of Huayna Capac and a younger brother of Huascar.
...Manco Inca, one of the more than 50 sons of Huayna Capac, was born in Cuzco. When Atahualpa's troops took the city under the command of General Quizquiz, they killed the descendants of Huayna Capac, the Huascar supporters, and anyone who could try to take the place of the Inca. Because of this, Manco Inca was forced to flee, avoiding any contact with the atahualpists.
On 14 November 1533, he met the conquistador Francisco Pizarro and his contingent, both Inca and Spanish. This and other events such as the massacre of Atahualpa led Manco Inca to believe that the Spaniards were "saviors" sent by the gods.
"Manco Inca Yupanqui" - Wikipedia
He was also the father of the aforementioned Titu Cusi btw. I have to admit, this is a gross comparison and a strech, but Manco Inca's initial belief that the Spaniards were "saviours" sent by the gods could be like how Kukulkan viewed humans as the "saviours" of the dragon race. Both became disillusioned in the end.
Now let's compare Titu and Manqu's historical counterparts with Legba's. That's right, they're worlds apart. The formers were emperors caught in family feuds and colonization, while the later is a Spirit best described as paternal.
But do you know who could be described as having many children?
Okay... I have to admit, this one is a bit of a stretch, especially since we don't know how Xiuhcoatl and the Dragonlords viewed each others, and how their relationships were like. But I want to point out Kukulkan's commentary left in the Secret Source Servant:
"Your descendants"... at the very least, Kukulkan acknowledged that the Dragonlords were Xiuhcoatl's descendants. (Btw, a little off-topic, but I NEED to talk about how Xiuhcoatl intentionally made the Secret Source Servants looks adorable. He could have just choose any other form that's more energy-efficient, but he insisted to use the adorable form??? My King...😭 born to make kawaii, forced to fight the Abyss, Celestia, and humans😔.)
• Let's retrace the mechanism of draconic shape-shifting a bit. Kukulkan explained that it was through the power of the Phlogiston of rewriting their physical form by borrowing the existing human ones' 'codes'.
Kukulkan: Phlogiston is an atom upon which information may be transcribed, and is itself a form of "computronium" — an element that can be used to imitate the essence of any and all things through the weaving of languageIridescent Inscriptions... This is why phlogiston can take on different forms and even switch between them, and this is also why you could see phantoms at the repair mechanisms in the Chamber of Deliberation.
- "An Omen of Annihilation and the Final Entreaty" Quest
So basically, shape-shifting is a bit like copying a code source. If someone knows the code source, they could copy the program. In this case, human soul acted as the code source, and Kukulkan stole them to copy their forms.
But this means that theoritically, this ability isn't just special to him. If someone knows programming, they could do a similar feat as him, right?
Well, well, well, who's the one who diddled with the power of Phlogiston first? Xiuhcoatl.
Kukulkan: Xiuhcoatl was the master of the first flame, wielder of all light, heat, and wisdom. He controlled the primal flame, and could even plunge his entire body into it.
And he also was the first dragon who emerged from the Primal Flame (unfortunately I didn't screenshot the text where Kukulkan said it😭 so correct me if I'm wrong.)
If he was the first master of the Primal Flame, and the one who came out with all the phlogistonization in the first place, is it too far-fetched to assume that he could also shape-shift?
But well... these are all my conjectures😅 I don't expect this to be true. I don't even know how or why he used Legba's form, and how he wasn't detected by Kukulkan all of those years. It could've been my account is kinda fucked, I haven't played certain quests, or I just dug too deep into it. And possibly because I just want my king to be alive okay😔
I also really, really, really want to dissect the Secret Source Servant's records, because damn some of those have very interesting implications😈
How about you? Does Legba in your account have changes in his dialogues? Or do you have your own theories?
*Boom* I somehow learned how to draw dragons??? And ofc this is on my History packet instead of my sketchbook or iPad, sighhhhh.
Anyway Kukulkan looks so good, chat (when does he not)
Today’s meme: Average Cousin beef
Og meme:
Hoyo better cook up some crazy cutscenes during the world quest, I have edits I wish to make 😁
*a tumble bush rolls across the desert plain as the clock strikes dawn in the Wild West* “looks like it’s just you and me, partner.”
On a serious note, AHHHHHHHH. DUDE YOUR ART IS GENUINELY SO GOOD FOR SOMEONE WHO JUST STARTED!! INSANE SKILL DUDE!!
Because I feel extremely anguished, an affliction caused by the vile machination of one of my sworn enemies, @itzoliveink, via their fanfiction Reds, Yellows, and Indigo, I want to pat myself by drawing mama Xiuhcoatl holding baby Ixlel.
"The anatomy is off" "wtf are those hands" "where are his eyes" "babies don't look like that" "wtf are those blue thingies on the baby" "where are his legs" "why does he look pregnant" BE QUIET I SUCK AT DRAWING😭 I JUST WANNA SEE XIUHCOATL HOLDING HIS CHILD!!! Also, I'm aware of the possibility that the Dragonlords were robots, but again I just want to see Mama Xiuhcoatl.
And for the last question, I don't think I want to dabble into mpreg, but considering Xiuhcoatl had 13 Dragonlords with unknown/unnoticeable age gaps... maybe he was pregnant back to back, poor guy- get dragged into high security prison.
Also, check out @itzoliveink's Ixlel & Ajaw designs! They are very lovely- I mean, insulting to me👿
Btw the inspo for Xiuhcoatl's huipil:
Todays Meme is spreading some Mausau love cause he is amazing:
Og meme: (for obvious reasons I had to change the wording)
Phew sorry for the wait, got a bit busier than expected. Memes for today:
OG memes:
Ok Hoyo, pack it up and drop the Arcane collab 🙄
Ok but doesn’t that look exactly like the Undercity form Arcane or and I actually losing it. I mean LOOK!!
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