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Seeeeeeeeh, yo también quiero saber que piensan la comunidad griega en Tumblr.
(Yeah, I also want to know what the Greek community on Tumblr thinks).
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE GREEK!
Since you guys learn about the Illiad and the Odyssey, what do your teachers tell/annonate about the relationship between Odysseus and Penelope?
Like how do the Greek view the bond between the two? Or did the two of them leave some kind of impact to the Western literature?
I’m just curious so please give me an insight!
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#epic the musical #odysseus #telemachus #reunion #I cried like an idiot with this, this was beautiful
Okay, now I'm just imagining an au where Telemachus gains training and self-confidence and cunning a little bit earlier (16 or 17-ish??) and manages to find a loophole that allows him to just kill all the suitors. He manages to convince his mother and his people to become King of Ithaca, but also letting people know that they still believe that Odysseus is still alive.
And so, in classic Anastasia fashion, men come up to Telemachus (despite hearing about his recent feat in killing 108 men single-handedly) declaring that they're his father.
Now, he could just straight up kill them.
But instead, he decides to use his mother's challenges.
The first challenge, as we all know it, is that they need to string his father's bow (that's now extra blessed by Athena so that Odysseus is the only person who manages) and shoot through 12 axes.
Then, if they miraculously manage it because they had their own divine intervention, Telemachus will take them into his "parents' room". The Quotation Marks are there because it isn't actually his parents' room. It's just a really lavish room no one in the royal family is using. But he will tell the man that it surely is. And if the man agrees, Telemachus will kill that man on the spot.
Many fail the first test and are sent away.
One manages to get divine intervention from Apollo, but fails the second test and dies.
And then, suddenly, there's this beggar. Athena is quiet in Telemachus' head, but the young man now 20 years old dares not to believe. This old man who looks worn, tired, starved of love and yet looks at Telemachus as if he has plenty to give him. Telemachus dares not to hope.
He remains stoic in his seat, eyes glaring, anticipating the old man to make a mistake so he could send him on his way. Or if he becomes too rowdy, kill him and forget about all this and brood in disappointment.
But the beggar manages. He strings the bow. He shoots through the axes cleanly.
"What is the second challenge?" the old man asks, voice scratchy but amused.
Telemachus is quiet for a few moments.
Then, he stands from his throne.
"Follow me."
Telemachus' heart is pounding in his chest. Athena still hasn't spoken. But she is here, he feels her presence.
This is the moment of truth.
Telemachus leads Odysseus to a lavish room different from the man who had been assisted by Apollo.
He stands in the middle of it, gesturing randomly.
"Here is your and mother's room," he said, keeping his voice level. He fakes a smile as he adds, "Please wait here as I call for her. She must be in the gardens somewhere."
The man is quiet, eyes shining in the light as he shakily gestures to the bed.
"That is not our bed."
Telemachus refrains from sucking in a breath. "What do you mean?" he asks, prompting, challenging the man to explain.
"I carved the bed your mother and I laid in with my own hands," the man said, voice trembling even more now. "From the olive tree where we first met. I built the palace around that because that bed, our wedding bed, is the symbol of our love."
The man looks at Telemachus desperately. "This cannot be our room. If it is, please, I beg you, tell me what happened to the bed."
Telemachus' voice is almost a whisper when he asks, "How easy would it be to move the bed?"
The man, Odysseus, his father, cries, "The bed is the tree itself!"
Telemachus finally let his tears fall.
"This isn't your room, father," he said, smiling as droplet after droplet fell from his face. "Your room had not changed, and your bed had never been moved. Mother is waiting there as she had always been for the past 20 years."
The man stares at him, and suddenly Telemachus felt self-concious as he wipes his tears away. His father must be angry, or indignant. He wonders if he disappointed his father, and resigns himself that there's nothing Telemachus could do if he has. He has his own style of dealing with things, so if his father couldn't accept it, then he guesses that's that.
"You've grown into such a cunning young man, my son."
Telemachus widens his eyes and looks, actually looks at his father. His father is smiling. It's the same smile his father gave him when he came and declared himself as Odysseus, came and accepted Telemachus' challenge, but this time his perspective isn't smothered with bitterness and longing. This time, Telemachus allowed himself to hope and believe that the man, his father, is looking at him with such adoration and unconditional love.
Telemachus opens his arms, and before he could even say anything, his father brings the two of them together in the tightest and warmest hug he's ever experienced.
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Okay, hear me out. Ruthlessness is only mercy upon ourselves when you're dealing with someone ruthless. I know the point our Captain was making is that ruthlessness is necessary, but I want to tack on a sometimes to that.
Cause Odysseus never would have made it home if people hadn't shown him mercy. Circe showed him mercy. Hermes showed him mercy. Athena showed him mercy. Zeus showed him mercy for Athena.
Yeah, he was more hurt by people than he was helped, but he was helped. So I don't think Polities was right and I don't think Poseidon was right. I think the best way to survive and to live is somewhere in between.
Not everyone is going to return your kindness. Some things can only be forgiven after there's been retribution. And even then it won't be the same as it was before. *Cough cough Athena cough cough*
The thing is that you never know when the person you're dealing with is someone waiting to take advantage of an outstretched hand, or someone who's own heart is softened by your sincerity.
A Polyphemus, or a Circe.
I really don't know what this looks like in real life. Maybe I'm just too stuck in Open Arms. But I truly hope that if I live life giving at least a second chance, (not in situations as life threatening as the Odyssey) There'll be people who return the gesture. I don't want to live in a world where ruthlessness is the only mercy that won't disappoint you.
Loved Epic. It's made me think about things. Also wake up in the middle of the night singing Dangerous, but that's fine. didn't you know that danger is my friend?
Si les dijera que yo estaba haciendo un mini-ensayo sobre la Odisea y EPIC, que está incompleto pero que quiero terminarlo y publicarlo aquí ¿Lo leerían?
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Yk how in "Would You Fall In Love With Me Again" Odysseus' electric guitar motif pops up when he's shocked by Penelope's request to move their wedding bed? As we know, the guitar only comes up when he's fighting and is being "Ruthless" aka ready to kill someone. People joke that the anger of Penelope's request would've caused him to go on another killing rampage or end it all but like. What if-
What if it was there cus he was about to do what Penelope asked him? What if he was getting ready to take all the ruthlessness in him and do the hardest thing of all, cut the roots of his wedding bed, simply because his wife asked him to? What if he takes out his sword, he's gonna do it but he's doing it angrily, ready to de-root the bed until Penelope (the Spartan woman she is) steals it away from his hand and points at him like "You're my husband because only my husband would know that! I love you!"
SOB-
animation memes are so back