Becoming A Nightingale

Becoming a Nightingale

Karliah: We need new Nightingales

Karliah: Please come to Nightingale Hall

Karliah: Take this Nightingale armour

Karliah: Okay so now you're becoming a Nightingale-

Brynjolf: What, I'm becoming a Nightingale?? This came out of NOWHERE!

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hello there my fellow disgrace on society, may i interest you in some larceny this fine day?

I love the thieves guild because people in Riften are like “those eeeevil thieves are responsible for everything wrong in this city!!!! They’re all terrible bastards, every one of them!!!!!!” and then you actually meet some of the members and it’s just like a couple hardasses, some angry lesbians, some tough guys that are actually fairly soft, and a bunch of dramatic gays.

People of Riften: ggrrrr what do u want???

Thieves Guild: hello fellow degenerate pull up a chair


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I Mean I Just Have To Add A Bunch Of Astral Viktor To This Because He's SO Expressive
I Mean I Just Have To Add A Bunch Of Astral Viktor To This Because He's SO Expressive
I Mean I Just Have To Add A Bunch Of Astral Viktor To This Because He's SO Expressive
I Mean I Just Have To Add A Bunch Of Astral Viktor To This Because He's SO Expressive
I Mean I Just Have To Add A Bunch Of Astral Viktor To This Because He's SO Expressive
I Mean I Just Have To Add A Bunch Of Astral Viktor To This Because He's SO Expressive
I Mean I Just Have To Add A Bunch Of Astral Viktor To This Because He's SO Expressive

I mean I just have to add a bunch of Astral Viktor to this because he's SO expressive

I Mean I Just Have To Add A Bunch Of Astral Viktor To This Because He's SO Expressive
I Mean I Just Have To Add A Bunch Of Astral Viktor To This Because He's SO Expressive
I Mean I Just Have To Add A Bunch Of Astral Viktor To This Because He's SO Expressive
I Mean I Just Have To Add A Bunch Of Astral Viktor To This Because He's SO Expressive
I Mean I Just Have To Add A Bunch Of Astral Viktor To This Because He's SO Expressive
I Mean I Just Have To Add A Bunch Of Astral Viktor To This Because He's SO Expressive
I Mean I Just Have To Add A Bunch Of Astral Viktor To This Because He's SO Expressive

People: Viktor is not externalising his feelings, he's the master of microexpressions

Actually Viktor:

People: Viktor Is Not Externalising His Feelings, He's The Master Of Microexpressions
People: Viktor Is Not Externalising His Feelings, He's The Master Of Microexpressions
People: Viktor Is Not Externalising His Feelings, He's The Master Of Microexpressions
People: Viktor Is Not Externalising His Feelings, He's The Master Of Microexpressions
People: Viktor Is Not Externalising His Feelings, He's The Master Of Microexpressions
People: Viktor Is Not Externalising His Feelings, He's The Master Of Microexpressions
People: Viktor Is Not Externalising His Feelings, He's The Master Of Microexpressions
People: Viktor Is Not Externalising His Feelings, He's The Master Of Microexpressions

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Amy Pond Looking Gorgeous With Her Glasses In The Angels Take Manhattan
Amy Pond Looking Gorgeous With Her Glasses In The Angels Take Manhattan
Amy Pond Looking Gorgeous With Her Glasses In The Angels Take Manhattan
Amy Pond Looking Gorgeous With Her Glasses In The Angels Take Manhattan
Amy Pond Looking Gorgeous With Her Glasses In The Angels Take Manhattan
Amy Pond Looking Gorgeous With Her Glasses In The Angels Take Manhattan
Amy Pond Looking Gorgeous With Her Glasses In The Angels Take Manhattan
Amy Pond Looking Gorgeous With Her Glasses In The Angels Take Manhattan
Amy Pond Looking Gorgeous With Her Glasses In The Angels Take Manhattan

Amy Pond looking gorgeous with her glasses in The Angels Take Manhattan


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Viktor was always afraid of becoming like Rio and Orianna, neither living nor dead, kept in glass by someone who would not let him die because he was loved too much. Jayce basically did just that to him.

How has this parallel never occur to me before? Viktor walking away was completely understandable before but this, this is just so sad...

Viktor being an apprentice for Singed longer than Arcane shows us really makes parts of his character deliciously more painful.

Viktor allows augmentations to his body, but never replaces anything despite the advanced prosthetics we see.

-> because Singed replaced Orianna’s arms and legs, and Viktor feared becoming her.

Viktor never uses Shimmer until he is absolutely desperate, though we see he could have access to it in Piltover a la Salo (or just by going to Singed earlier).

-> Viktor knows Shimmer was supposed to be a medicine because he’s the adopted son of the man who made it. He watches Shimmer, something he might have even helped with in its earliest stages as a teenager, become a drug that ravages Zaun.

-> The first person he “heals” is a Shimmer addict.

Viktor leaves after Jayce rescued him with the Hexcore.

-> Viktor was always afraid of becoming like Rio and Orianna, neither living nor dead, kept in glass by someone who would not let him die because he was loved too much. Jayce basically did just that to him.

Singed convinces Ambessa to let him talk to Viktor. He notices Viktor is fading and offers his creature up to heal him. He doesn’t actually do it until Viktor lets him.

Meanwhike, Viktor knows where one of the worst villains of the Undercity is. The reason Shimmer is flooding the Lanes. Viktor has a Councilor best friend and ties to the Enforcers who could root him out. Yet he never breathes a word about his location.

-> Because there is a twisted sort of love between them, a toxic relationship filled with acid, but at its core is a true affection of a father for a son.

i think more male characters should have a little boob window actually


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(mollymauk): without caleb, i’d be lost.

(mollymauk): *yelling* hey, caleb! where am i?

(caleb): *down the hall* sun room.

(mollymauk): thanks!

(mollymauk): see?!

Whoa. Aside from all the brilliant points this post makes, it also fully convinced me that Jayce is an enneagram Nine.

Deep Dive:

Jayce vs. Romance

Deep Dive:

(Or, Part 7½ of the "Underrated JayVik" meta series.)

I did say all the way back in part 7 that I might write a separate post about my perception of Jayce when it comes to romantic relationships, so that's what this is.

Obviously, this character-read is very informed by the notion of JayVik being a thing - because, y'know, so is my read of the show - so to start with, we'll have to take the following things for granted for the sake of argument:

Jayce is not straight (I'm not opposed to the idea of a cosmic love which transcends gender, I just don't think it has to be "only" that - we can have both you know)

Jayce's feelings for Viktor, at least by the end of the show, are romantic in nature and Jayce is aware of it (how him and those feelings get there is one topic of this meta)

I will extrapolate a lot from how Jayce behaves in his relationship with Mel, seeing as there are very limited points of reference otherwise

All of this is a personal hypothesis, not a claim to truth

And, if at any point you get the impression I'm talking about a character who might be on the spectrum here, I'm not saying that, but I'm not not saying that iykyk

Now, with all that out of the way:

1. Let me first tell you the story of a nerdy kid

Born into a lower House of toolmakers in the elite part of the city, this young man attends the prestigious academy as - essentially - "the poorest rich kid", where his only friend just might be the teenage daughter of his high-society patrons (who, by the way, are the only other people he will think to turn to outside of his family before deciding to end his life).

He's both a handy and a cerebral guy who has spent most of his life in single-minded pursuit of an outlandish (and also... quite illegal) idea. Everything in his life revolves around it; he hangs tapestries of magicians on his walls and fills his windowsill with interesting crystals he found. He travels to deserts and conducts covert research with dubious equipment, all in hopes of making his singular dream a reality.

So, if his lower status or the weird vibes of his hyperfixation didn't make him a loner, then the necessary secrecy surrounding his special interest certainly would.

(...At the same time, however, he just so happens to also be tall, built, conventionally attractive and carry himself with confidence - so when we as the audience first meet him, we kinda assume that he would be a popular person who has it all, though only because we're conditioned to assume so of people who, well, are like that. Also, the show does a clever thing by first introducing him to us bantering with a pretty girl who appears impressed by him, before we learn of their sibling-like relationship.)

Now, why do I say all of this when it has nothing much to do with romance?

Because this is the boy Jayce never stopped seeing in himself.

A nerd always tinkering away on his model railways in the basement by himself, essentially. He doesn't lack self-esteem necessarily; he is comfortable with who he is and confident in his cause, but he does rather see himself as the odd one out.

Even as the show goes on, despite his charm, his looks, his eloquence and talent for public speaking, I don't feel like Jayce ever truly realises the power and the appeal of him. He knows it tends to "work" whenever he takes the floor (and he is absolutely thrilled with the positive response), but I feel like it's a skill he steps into like a pair of dress shoes, more so than something he views as an innate part of who he is.

2. Boy meets girl - and boy (in one night!)

✨Pop quiz!✨

What happens when the guy who considers himself the least eligible bachelor in the room meets the two - in his eyes - coolest, sharpest, most capable and most admirable people he's ever seen?

(Or more importantly, when those same people express an interest in him and the singular thing his whole life revolves around?)

Well, essentially this:

Deep Dive:

Sorry, wrong image.

This:

Deep Dive:

This leads me to headcanon #1 regarding Jayce's relationships with other people:

Anytime any person Jayce looks up to tells him he's a good boy so much as gives him the time of day, he is thrilled.

3. So about that windfall...

Irrespective of all of what I just said though, Jayce also strikes me as a guy who... while definitely not uninterested in having a romantic relationship, doesn't ever actively go for people in a romantic way (or physical, for that matter).

And y'know, case in point is really just how my girl did all of that

Deep Dive:

yet not only is Mel still required to close the entire gap all by herself in the end, but even in moments where Jayce might recognise her flirtation, you just never see any gears turning in his head like "maybe I should do something about this".

(I remember actually laughing out loud when in episode 4, Mel sways her hips at Jayce asking "To what do I owe the pleasure~?", and for a moment, as Jayce hesitates, I obviously assumed he would pick up on the suggestiveness in some way - if only as recognition on his face -, only for him to go "It's Heimerdinger..." Like, literally the least sexy thing to possibly say in that moment. 😂)

This is why I previously described Jayce as a guy to just kind of... roll with the punches in situations like that.

Though less flatteringly, in conversation I have also likened him to the specific breed of man in real life who "seem content to let themselves be picked up like windfall" - not particularly choosey about who gets to do so and instead opting mostly for the path of least resistance, romance-wise.

Which brings us to headcanon #2:

Jayce - while a highly emotional person who is not afraid to show it - doesn't tend to consciously concern himself with and think about his feelings, what they mean, or where his romantic interests lie, really. He's mostly just along for the ride.

4. By God it's Mel Medarda with a steel chair..!

Now, what do you get when you combine these factors into one character?

Well in this specific case, you get Jayce Talis who - when one of the most capable and admirable people he knows decides, for some reason, that she wants a piece of him - is more than happy to oblige and be with an amazing person. He's just thrilled to be there, basically.

Congrats, Mel - you've managed to push through Jayce's complete lack of response to your advances and unlocked his rare "love-starved boyfriend" skin as a reward!

...So what about Viktor, then?

Well.

He didn't.

As I mentioned in the original post as well, my personal JayVik pet theory is such that "if at any point during their partnership Viktor had made a move first, I do believe Jayce would have put up the equal amount of resistance he did with Mel, so... zero."

(And when I say "move" I mean MOVE - again, nothing short of a smacker or outright love confession would have been enough to spark Jayce into action yet at that point.)

If we're taking the idea that Jayce is "not straight" for granted (which we are), then looking at both Mel and Viktor through Jayce's eyes, I honestly don't believe Mel ever had that much over Viktor in terms of being a viable romantic option - other than the simple fact that she is the one who claimed that spot.

Or, as @glassvines wrote in response to the original post: "Viktor had all the cards...but none of the confidence".

5. Now go sit in the corner and think about what you've done

So yeah, that's tragic and all, but then how do we get to this point?

Deep Dive:

"Now, all I want... is you."

(Oh hush, don't pretend this is not what that line actually means.)

Point being, if Jayce - while he might not have refused Viktor and may have been equally happy to "oblige" - never consciously considered his own desires and wouldn't have actively pursued a relationship not explicitly handed to him... then what happened for him to end up here, dishing out banger after banger of quotable love confessions which contain the clear message of "I have made my choice, and it's you"?

...Well, in a way I sorta gave it away with the very first image of this post, didn't I.

Deep Dive:

Oh, what a timeout in the naughty corner can do to set a guy's priorities straight...

With Jayce spending weeks in stark isolation at the bottom of a ravine in the most extreme allegory of "getting locked in a room with someone until you talk it out" (except the guy you're locked in with is you), this proves to be an absolutely crucial time of introspection for him in a multitude of ways.

It's where he faces the wrong turns he took, realises that Heimerdinger was always right about the Arcane's corruption, and recognises the ways in which Mel had used and manipulated him.

It's also where he finally realises what - who - was most important to him all along, and in what way.

(The first three, you can glean from the voice lines played over the scene by the way, in case you're wondering.

So is that last bit just me making stuff up, then? No - it's an interpretation for sure, but not a fabrication. See, the shot of Mel's image burning away before Jayce and giving way to Viktor's instead is not only interesting for drawing yet another parallel between them, but also for being a shot that is otherwise out of place with the voice lines. For instance, there are several lines from Heimerdinger, yet Jayce doesn't envision him; there are none from Viktor - a striking absence in and of itself -, yet he does appear.

If nothing else, what this tells us is that this shot is - mostly - detached from Jayce's other epiphanies that I specified above. At which point, if you then take the shot by itself and purely at face value, it does become a... surprisingly candid symbolism really, if you ask me.)

To be clear though: The preference was always there.

After all, Jayce had previously already recognised that his place had always been with Viktor. Also he did dip out of Mel's bed to go see Viktor before he could have even known Viktor was sick that one time, so...

He just hadn't really thought about what that meant.

But lo and behold, it only took a stint in boyfailure jail for Jayce to consciously come to the realisation of not only that, but also that he is, in fact, not content to be windfall about whom he pledges his love and loyalty to anymore.

He wants to close the gap this time.

And to think: all of that even before he learned that Viktor was also the cause of his lifelong special interest in the first place like whaaaat. Imagine the day he must be having...

Jokes aside though; obviously, there is something to be said about Jayce meeting mage!Viktor and finally understanding - as I pointed out in part 13 - just how much Viktor truly needs him, and this perhaps being the final piece of the puzzle for Jayce to realise his priorities as well.

It would have made this post even longer though, and not even added very much, since I do believe multiple things can be true at once here.

Part 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/7½/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15/16/17/18/19/20

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