Luz Thinking That Her Friends Are Gonna Hate Her For Accidentally Helping Belos Is Really Really Funny

Luz thinking that her friends are gonna hate her for accidentally helping Belos is really really funny when you remember that Hunter 'War Crimes' Wittebane is right there and has been adopted into the found family.

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8 months ago

Whoops, I think is misused the word desensitized, I meant that he says pretty messed up stuff, therefore witnessed a lot a messed up without thinking that it’s wrong. The whole back-stabbing coven heads and training stuff.

I look back at the fight with Amity I think your right that in the fight. There where some moves that could’ve hurt her severely. Like the energy blasts and now that I think about it, those staff bashes look lethal if they where to hit Amity’s head. I also forgot about the Kikimora fight, yeah dude could be ruthless. But I mean their where other opportunities to hurt Amity he didn’t do, he could grabbed her with the first fist but he just punched her, instead of swinging his staff the grab the key he could’ve tried hitting her again. He was fighting more frantically with the aim of grabbing the key then the in wet by with kill.

The training accident I actually like! I forgot to even to consider that, I do agree if Hunter where to have a accidental kill it probably would be from training considering all the brutal stuff scouts had to do.

I also like the basilisk stuff too but due to it it never being quite comfirmed I decided not to write anything. However I’ve came to the conclusion that it’s never been denied either. So if he was involved in the experiments, it wasn’t often. When the basilisks escaped he probably was sent to Hunt them down. And probably killed one as a result.

The situation with the basilisks is a bit confusing as we see some other ones at the end of the show. Though I’m pretty sure those are the basilisks that escaped, so that also makes me question what happened to the other ones. So I wonder if Belos just killed them in the end before the day or unity. I wonder if Hunter knew about that if that did to happen.

If he was then yeah I don’t doubt Belos made them out to be mindless animals that just want to eat magic.

I definitely have my own story for how things go for Hunter, pre-meeting Luz though this was written with what’s canonically shown in mind.

Theirs definitely a lot of messed up stuff that can be explored that can’t be in the show due to it being a Disney cartoon.

As for the petrification, a reasoning I used was that a bunch of scouts are used for capturing wild witches. Which also makes me question if other scouts and coven members are aware of these petrifactions and if so, why not Hunter? I don’t think Hunter petrified witches himself but was rather was part of the process that leads to a petrification. He arrested them and then Belos was able to decide their fates. (The petrification)

So that’s what I mean by factor of death rather than cause or even reason for death.

Yeah, Hunter is a good person. No matter how much he’s manipulated or groomed into being some tool, he won’t harm for the sake of harming. Never would he kill and be casual with it. I think if he where to kill someone, it would look ‘casual’ due to his mask (ignoring body language) but as soon as it’s off and the doors are closed, it panic crying from there.

Yeah the idea of Hunter taking things too far not out of malicious intent but because his reading on violence or the pain scale being messed up for him is always a bit comedic if not utterly depressing.

Been seeing some discussion on Hunter’s kill count so let me throw in my interpretation

Hunter isn’t some cold blooded killer. In fact in the show we see him avoid doing any messy work. Like having the owl gang try to kill the selkidomous or letting Luz and the Palismen go. Or the fact that during the fight with Amity he never did anything to imply he was trying to kill her, he didn’t even try restraining her. He just was trying to snatch the key and leave the entire fight. If anything, it was Amity pulling out the hurting and restraining moves lol.

But rather where I think there is violence was because of the inherent nature of the two missions. Mission 1 was him trying to kill the selkidomous, the only reason that didn’t happen was because there was people there to do it for him (even if they didn’t). So that makes me wonder, where there other beats killing missions he had to do? I’d imagine so, and I guarantee he didn’t have anyone to the work for him those times. So there’s that, Hunter killing some beasts.

Mission 2 was the palismen , and also before the mission we see him handing a palismen to Belos. So yeah, dude has probably taken ownerless palismen in the past, and has given palismen to Belos to kill and eat so theirs that. I don’t think he’s directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of palismen but numbers do add up.

Also another thing I want to mention is direct responsibility, I’d imagine a lot of the violence or deaths caused by Hunter weren’t directly from him but the consequences of his job.

Now next is where we can be a bit imaginative, I pretty sure it’s stated in the show that Hunter only goes on missions on the weekends. So dude is pretty much just hanging out in the castle in the weekdays. That means he was probably doing paperwork, and considering he’s a coven head, he has a lot of power. So on the weekends rather than him going on missions, he was sending out scouts. That means anything that the scouts did, that he may have sent was also partially his responsibility. So if the scouts where to arrest, or kill any witches, then Hunter would likely feel at minimum partially responsible (I feel like he’d feel incredibly guilty as if he directly killed them)

Now for the actual mission, obviously he’s likely captured wild witches. While he was shown to struggle a bit but learn and adapt with palismen magic. When we see him with his artificial staff, he’s highly skilled with it. He fought pretty calmly with Luz and Eda at the shores and can travel a high speeds with it. I’d be more amazed if he didn’t manage to arrest anyone. Anyways, so here’s Hunter, he’s arrested some wild witches and he’s proud of himself. He takes them to the conformatium, he thinks that’s the end of it only for those witches to be privately petrified. We know that public petrifications hadn’t happened in 30 years but we see that they still happen in private.

It’s a bit dubious if we know if Hunter knew of these petrifications or not, much less arresting witches knowing they’re going to be petrified. But I think he possibly may have considering in Hollow mind he excuses those death of the sigil witches as just Belos perfecting sigil magic and literal terrorism for the greater good.

That’s where I think a kill count comes to play, that Hunter arrested wild witches knowing there may have been a possible chance of them dying. Therefore making him a factor for death. (Not to confuse with cause of death)

Another idea is him accidentally killing, like using too much force or miscalculating a spell. Another idea is killing in self defense. Assassinations aren’t much of a surprise in the castle so I don’t doubt there’s a chance that he may have killed an assassin or someone trying to cause bodily harm on him. Again a situation of a fight with a wild witch going too far. I don’t doubt a wild witch willing to fight Hunter to death knowing it was likely he was going to arrest them and lead them to a possible death.

One more, a messed up one but one that isn’t too out of character is having Belos having Hunter test his loyalty by being able to kill for him. Or Belos having Hunter kill someone in the privacy of the castle, like a traitor coven member (I doubt Raine and the Cats are the first to attempt a infiltration) Hence, where the context I was thinking of for this drawing actually comes from. (“May Titan have mercy on you”).

Again this is me just counting deaths and not any other potential violence he may have committed (not resulting in deaths. Even if someone doesn’t die, the violence inflicted upon them could still be life changing. The idea of Hunter giving someone a disability or trauma is pretty sad :( and not even impossible). Hunter in the show is pretty desensitized to violence in the way he talks about it or thinks of it in Any sport in a storm and Hollow mind.

So yeah, that’s my Hunter kill count, a couple if beasts, dozens of palismen and handful of actual witches, my guess 3-6. Could be higher but I’m trying to be a bit more realistic, even if I admittedly want to dramatize it lol.

Anyways that my rambles, anyone have their own thoughts on this?

8 months ago

I wish we got to see him fight more in the show. Show me how he fights when he actually mad or doing stuff closer to his full potential! He so op and people don’t acknowledge it. That fact he did all that with a staff he wasn’t even familiar with!

yall gotta STOP saying hunter was trying to kill amity in eclipse lake. he was not. he was going out of his way not to kill her. his goal was to get the key and to get the key only.

lets discuss in detail.

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

absolute first thing that happens: King wehs Hunter

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

Hunter gets Flapjack staff

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

He teleports twice, says 'real staffs are weird' and then amity ties him up. he teleports out of this into the air.

then we has his first actual aggressive non defensive move:

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out
Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

This is an AOE attack. area of effect. its an attack that does less damage but hits a larger area. so this sends bolts of magic scattering and bouncing all over the place. none of them actually HIT her. and this attack does not aim at her. It purely puts her on the defensive because she is now dodging blasts.

she hops off her staff to block one and then hunter teleports in

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

he is now behind her and she is caught off guard. he does not attack her flank, he just reaches for the key, before king tackles him.

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

he teleports behind her again, and this time comes in with a swing.

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

one she easily blocks. again, not a magical attack here. staff bash.

okay now follow this:

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

hes here, with her shield

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

he zaps over here, lower, moves to swing but doesnt, zaps again

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

baps her again after her shield has already moved above her head

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

she moves her shield left, he comes in right but hes not even swinging.

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out
Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

amity punches his fucking lights out and then orbs him

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

he hits her with this construction punch that knocks her off her staff before she can escape

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

and finally he breaks the necklace with his staff.

none of these attacks were lethal. he hits her with an AOE instead of a direct attack- and she didnt have a shield up yet because she had JUST used it to tie him up, then he hops around with, frankly, some staff bashes that are really holding back from what we know hes capable of, he knocks her off her staff and then when he has the opportunity to actually HIT her he hits the key instead.

compare this to the way he fights kikimora!

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

he nearly gets his head taken off when she scrapes his forehead and the next attack he blocks with his eyes on Kikimora, not the attack. thats like, important. that indicative of skill level.

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

especially because he does it twice in a row! the second time one handed! Left handed!

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

look at the completely different posture he zaps in to strike with. the hits on amity he is holding back.

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out
Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out
Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

this little bastard does a front flip mid teleport to generate strength behind this strike.

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

look how effortlessly he does this. imagine how many rotations that is in a single second. hes not even looking at it OR his hands. hes spinning that one handed.

ive trained on a bo staff. this shit is not easy. i trained for two years and couldnt get anywhere near that. just watch this video of noah fort going apeshit to see what this actually looks like irl.

Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out
Yall Gotta STOP Saying Hunter Was Trying To Kill Amity In Eclipse Lake. He Was Not. He Was Going Out

he fucking... hits it back at her....

this little man can spin a staff so fast he can reflect magic and control the direction it fires. he hit kikimora so hard he sent her flying twenty feet.

if hunter had wanted to kill amity she'd be fucking dead dude. amity is a good fighter, like, don't get me wrong. but hunters op as absolute shit. hes a terrifying little man. he also fought her completely differently than he did kiki, and he wasnt even trying to kill her. we've never seen Hunter fight all out like, fight to the death when he was still at full strength. we have no idea what that would look like. but we know that fight with amity was faaaaar from his potential. intentionally. he is seriously holding back and clearly on purpose. its not just that hes exhausted already, its not just that he has a new staff, its that he is holding back. he is not using lethal techniques.


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5 months ago
Couldn’t Quite Get My Eye Shape But This Was Fun!

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7 months ago
Based Off Of @a-concert-just-for-me Post About Hunter Having Open Wounds
Based Off Of @a-concert-just-for-me Post About Hunter Having Open Wounds
Based Off Of @a-concert-just-for-me Post About Hunter Having Open Wounds

Based off of @a-concert-just-for-me post about Hunter having open wounds

Like omg get my boy medical attention now.


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7 months ago

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6 months ago

Ok ok

So both cardinals and blue jays are very territorial birds also known for being aggressive and defensive.

Now I need to draw flapjack or waffles being lil assholes to other witches (including the hexsquad) and palismen. Them being territorial of Hunter and not letting anyone near is delightfully hilarious. Hunter needs to reassure them when others try getting near. I’m imagining a lil flapjack screeching and pecking anyone getting close including the other palismen trying to hang out. You have to give them food a compromise. Once they settle down, they’ll just give you the stink eye.

Like imagine trying to greet Hunter then his little red bird starts screaming and flying aggressively at your head, horrifying. Better if when he goes to the human realm and flapjack starts trying to fight the bird population, specifically the other cardinals. Ooooo jealous flapjack hits. I think I’ve read a fic like that.

You try visiting the palismen carver and immediately get jump scared by this angry blue bird.

But yeah here’s some rambles. Been thinking about the little guys and thought it would be funny to incorporate some actual animal behavior in them.


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