I Feel Like Initially Most People Were On The Same Page About Tommy Kinnard, They Were Like Ok Let's

I feel like initially most people were on the same page about Tommy Kinnard, they were like ok let's see where it goes and we got Bi Buck!! Like, in April, I was on top of the world bc of Bi Buck, and I was so excited for him and eager to see where it goes, even the ones who didn't want him for Buck from the start were indifferent to him.

But I feel like the divide and the ship wars intensified was when people started using the "healthy male friendship" and "why can't two men just be friends" argument against Buddie, we have hundreds, if not thousands of those in pop culture and homophobes often use this argument against lgbt rep, so to see a group, some if not most of which are queer themselves use the same argument is off putting.

Then, whether you're his fan or a hater, you gotta agree that Tommy's character is a blank slate, he's not been given much to do, besides a few moments, and a significant part of that is him being racist and sexist to two fan favourite characters: Chim and Hen respectively (similarly people disliked Taylor for what she did to Bobby, the redemption and forgiveness before she started dating Buck was implied but it's not enough). Other than that he doesn't have a lot of qualities. And what happens is fans project a lot of things on him. What made me abandon the Tevan ship was people "stealing" Eddie's character traits and projecting it onto Tommy, while labelling him a terrible mentally insane father who uses Buck for his own gain, yada yada yada. And I love Buck and Eddie equally, so to me that was irritating.

Also, since he doesn't have many character traits, his lines, which are intended as sassy can come off as him being a dismissive and condescending dick.

Then for the off screen side of things, we were constantly told Buck is straight, by the actors and the showrunner but everyone was like eh whatever, and then our headcannons were proven right, but suddenly theorising about Eddie and that a lot of queer people including myself identify with him is looked down on if not straight up mocked, and that the canon storylines are the only ones that matter have made the fandom a bit toxic.

Buddies are often accused of blindly hating on Tommy, so I feel like I should lay it out as to why a lot of us went from being indifferent or open to the guy to straight up hating him.

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1 year ago

i'm a thigh girlie but i'm also a squishy kind of guy so if either 18 or 52 take your fancy for the prompts šŸ‘‰šŸ‘ˆ

some sleepy stuff <3

touch prompts: 18 squishing the others cheek + 52 gripping thigh

might as well be drunk in love

Buck might be the most responsible Maid of Honour to have ever existed in the history of Maids of Honour. He told himself that half an hour ago when Ravi crowed FOMO, motherfucker at him post-Chim and Maddie’s rehearsal dinner, after Buck had sensibly and maturely taken his leave from the wedding party’s continued celebrations to get in a solid seven hours of shuteye—he’s the only one who has to be up at basically the crack of dawn to start getting things in order for the actual wedding at noon.

He tells himself that now as he pulls the thick comforter up to his neck, stretching his toes against the footboard and sighing. The empty double bed across from his own just seems to mock him, though, a reminder that Eddie’s probably knocking back the white wine Karen’s got him enjoying lately, almost certainly pink-cheeked and loose-hipped and laughing prettier than any music, only three floors below Buck right this very minute. FOMO, motherfucker indeed.

It's fine, Buck reasons, only somewhat grumpily. He’d be much more upset with himself for being too tired to be on top of things for Maddie’s big day tomorrow than he is for missing out on drinking with his friends and staring moonily at his best friend as covertly as alcohol will allow. Besides, he’s going to do just that tomorrow night anyway, with the added bonus of no pre-wedding stress. This was a good decision, the right decision, Buck is rational and correct and will have no sympathy for anyone nursing hangovers and sleep deprivation when they’re supposed to be setting out chairs and place cards at the reception tomorrow.

Somewhere between one grumbled thought and the next, he must fall asleep. It’s only a while later that the creak of the hotel room door cuts through his fuzzy dreamscape. He stays half-submerged, but Eddie trips over something and swears under his breath, and Buck swims groggily to the surface of consciousness.

He doesn’t bother cracking open an eye, listening instead to the gentle thumps and bumps of Eddie getting undressed and ready for bed. He’s almost lulled back to sleep by the sounds of it: the quiet snick of the toothpaste cap opened and shut, the whoosh of the tap running, the click as Eddie switches off the bathroom light, the rustle of sheets as he climbs into—Buck’s bed?

Buck forces one eye open then, but it’s moot since yes, Eddie does seem to be getting into Buck’s bed, except from behind Buck, so all that Buck is aware of is the sudden gust of cool air against the backs of his calves as Eddie lifts the duvet, and then the mattress is dipping and Buck’s warm again, because—because Eddie’s plastered along his back.

It’s not an accidental mix-up of beds either, because Eddie wastes no time slinging an arm around Buck’s waist, his hold loose but—there. Very much there.

ā€œUh. Eddie?ā€ Buck whispers, voice rough from sleep. He clears his throat gently, pausing and straining to listen when Eddie mumbles something unintelligible. How drunk is he? Does he think Buck’s someone else? That’s—if that’s true… He broke up with Ana nearly two years ago, and there hasn’t been anyone serious since, not the scattered dates here and there, so—if it’s any of them Eddie thinks he’s getting into bed with? That would… suck.

But then Eddie says, ā€œWhat, Buck,ā€ muffled and sleepy into Buck’s shoulder.

The warmth that instantly blooms in his chest takes Buck by surprise, a little, and he feels his body automatically relax against Eddie, unaware he’d been holding it tight in the first place. Still, the confusion lingers.

ā€œOh. You’re—uh.ā€ Should he—say something? Why would he say something, though. Just because this isn’t something they do… Eddie’s clearly fine with this, initiating this, and Buck—there’s never a time Buck doesn’t want this, want this bad. So why would he say you have a bed right there and come off as a dick when they’re both perfectly fine with this.

Or, worse in ways that are both hysterical and heartbreaking, come off as vaguely homophobic or make Eddie uncomfortable about the way he’s currently spooning Buck like he’s been doing it all his life.

He settles for a lighthearted, ā€œAre you drunk?ā€

Eddie sighs sleepily, breath tickling Buck’s neck. ā€œYeah. Kinda.ā€

Okay. That’s fine. Their friendship is no stranger to physical touch, casual shoulder bumps and easy hip checks and full-body hugs. Eddie doesn’t need a reason to be looser with his affection, obviously, especially not where Buck is concerned, but if he did? What better combination than too many drinks and being at a wedding for their friends and family? Buck’s all too familiar with the love having to go somewhere, and if this is where Eddie wants to put it tonight? Buck’ll take it gladly and be a little moonier about it than planned tomorrow.

Eddie worms a hand under Buck’s sleep shirt, tracing his abdomen with his fingertips. Buck shivers. Okay, so not entirely platonic, but Eddie’s drunk. That blurs the lines of a good cuddle. Buck will resign his sorry ass to a night of his best friend being lovingly handsy in the spirit of friendship and lovesickness.

Eddie’s palm moves higher, ghosting across Buck’s sternum. His thumb catches against Buck’s nipple, and they both still for a second, Buck holding his breath. Then Eddie does it again, a lazy rub against it that has Buck swallowing and shifting his hips. Entirely not platonic, actually, any way you look at it.

Then, as sudden as his treacle-slow movements can be, Eddie’s hand ceases its exploratory tracing and taps once, twice, over Buck’s heart as he presses himself more firmly against Buck’s back, a lazy, languid stretch.

ā€œEddie,ā€ Buck says. ā€œWhat’s—are you—I’mā€”ā€

There’s a pause, and then Eddie relaxes his body away from Buck. ā€œHey,ā€ he mumbles. ā€œIs this okay?ā€

ā€œYeah,ā€ Buck replies without thinking, immediately reaching back for Eddie, hand stretched to pull him back close. ā€œBut—what’s—why right now?ā€

ā€œWhy not right now,ā€ Eddie grumbles, sinking back into his place along Buck’s body with an ease that makes Buck screw his eyes shut tight again for a second. ā€œShould’ve been right now many nows ago.ā€

ā€œWhat?ā€ Buck asks, genuinely a little lost as he throttles the rising bubble of hope inside him, squeezing just enough to still it without popping.

Eddie exhales heavily and with feeling, making sure Buck hears the exact amount of put out he is to be having this conversation when they could be sleeping, and Buck loves every disgruntled cell in his body.

ā€œYour maid-of-honour speech,ā€ Eddie yawns. ā€œYou said—you said you once had a conversation wi’ Maddie about—about love. About how it should be—you’re at your worst and they are too and still—you don’t give up. On each other. On… what you have. You try again.ā€

Buck hums. ā€œThink they’ve had more worsts than a lot of people. Love that you fight for in the face of all that—or helps you through the face of all that? That’s. Yeah.ā€

ā€œChim showed me his vows. About—how he wishes there wasn’t hurt behind th’ reason f’r it, but he loved getting t’ be Maddie’s friend first, you know?ā€ Eddie’s voice is a sleepy slur, murmured almost directly into Buck’s ear with the way he’s holding him. ā€œEven when he wasn’t sure they were ever gonna be anything but. Someth’n—something about trust like that—I dunno. It’s easier when you’re friends.ā€

ā€œEddieā€”ā€

ā€œMy worst, Buck. And you walk right through the door and stay. And, and friends do that, but—I’m not imaginin’ this. Karen told me I’m not and she’s wise. She’s a lesbian. And a rocket scientist. In that order.ā€

The hope-bubble slips out of the grasp he has on it with a cheerful blown-raspberry sound, rising and rising inside him. Eddie’s hand is hot against his bare chest, and Eddie is comparing Chimney’s wedding vows to how he sees Buck in his own life, and Eddie’s drunk but Buck doesn’t think there’s much room for misinterpretation.

Buck’s not said anything, and before he can speak to assuage any presumably already-minimal doubts Eddie has, Eddie sighs loudly.

ā€œOkay, this is not working. Turn over.ā€ He tugs on Buck’s arm as he rolls over himself.

Buck shifts onto his other side slowly, carefully, a crescent around Eddie’s curled body. Close, but not touching.

ā€œBuck,ā€ Eddie huffs, flailing a hand back to grab his thigh, fingers digging into the meat of it. He yanks it forward, hitching it over his own hip so Buck’s flush against him from the ass-upwards.

When Buck doesn’t automatically hold him, Eddie twists his head to glare blearily over his shoulder. It’s the first time they’ve made eye contact since he entered the room, and his eyes are glassy when they meet Buck’s.

ā€œHello,ā€ he says. ā€œWhat’s a guy gotta do to get some cuddling around here.ā€

Buck laughs, surprised, and Eddie smiles, smug as he turns away and settles in again, like that was his only intention. And Buck gets it, he desperately wants this to just be—to just be it, you know, to have this be the way it happens, to wrap his arms around Eddie and wake up tangled together, to not second guess anymore, but it’s late and Eddie’s been drinking and they’re at a wedding with all the wedding emotions in the air—

His leg hiked over Eddie’s means his crotch is mashed into Eddie’s ass, and Eddie’s wriggling back in an attempt to snuggle into him and—

ā€œEddie,ā€ he says. ā€œMaybe this isn’tā€”ā€

ā€œUgh,ā€ Eddie says. He turns around to grab Buck’s cheek, squeezing gently. Buck winces, all for show, before his face goes completely slack because Eddie’s planting a sloppy kiss that really only lands on forty percent of Buck’s mouth, hot and minty and lifechanging.

ā€œRight,ā€ Buck says, strained. He takes a deep breath, eyes squeezed shut, before opening them and placing a soft kiss on Eddie’s forehead, brushing his hairline. ā€œIt’s just—you’re drunk—I don’t want you toā€”ā€

He’s cut off by Eddie rolling his eyes and flipping back around into little spoon position.

ā€œYeah, well, that’s kind of the thing, Buck,ā€ he sighs, grunting as he shifts to get comfortable. He manoeuvres Buck’s arm around his waist, pulls it up against his own chest, grip firm but still with a relaxed certainty to it. ā€œI loved you this morning when I was undercaffeinated and being bullied into redoing flower arrangements, and I loved you this evening when I thought I had indigestion from those cheese puffs, and I love you right now when I’m drunk, and I’ll love you tomorrow when I’m hungover and miserable about it. I’m in the prime of my life, I shouldn’t be facing these kinda drinkin’ consequences at thirty-three, Jesus.ā€

Buck shelves the kneejerk comment about Jesus probably being the biggest advocate for getting wine-drunk in your early thirties even though focusing on any of the other words Eddie’s just said might result in his own spontaneous combustion and instead says, ā€œOh.ā€

ā€œā€™Oh’,ā€ Eddie mimics, half-asleep but no less bitchy for it. ā€œYeah, oh. I’ll do the—the sobriety test for you in the morning if you still want, but can we go to sleep now?ā€

They can, and they do, and when Buck’s alarm goes off at six am, they blink awake with Eddie curled against Buck’s chest, hand once again stuck up his shirt.

ā€œMmmh,ā€ he insists, bearing down when he feels Buck try to get up.

ā€œEddie, I gotta go set up.ā€

ā€œGotta—no, thanks,ā€ Eddie replies, clinging harder.

Buck huffs a laugh, any trepidation he had about Eddie’s wants upon waking easing away. ā€œMaid-of-honour duties wait for no one.ā€

ā€œMaid-of-honour, schmaid-of-honour,ā€ Eddie tells him, muffled into his chest. ā€œWhat about your loving me duties. It’s a full-time job, you know.ā€

ā€œCan do that with my eyes closed,ā€ Buck says, ā€œand I’m great at multi-tasking this maid-of-honour stuff, but I need my eyes open for the rest of it.ā€

Eddie ducks his head, as if to hide his smile, but Buck feels it where it’s pressed into his chest anyway. ā€œFine.ā€

There’s a beat, and then he’s propping his chin up to peer at Buck. ā€œAlso—for sobriety test’s sake. Hi. Also, I didn’t really let you get a word in last nightā€¦ā€

He doesn’t look nervous or unsure, just kind of sheepish. His hair is sticking up in fluffy clumps and there’s a crease along his right cheek and Buck can love him with his eyes closed but he’s so very glad they’re open, because this is a million times better.

ā€œYou really didn’t, huh. How the tables turn—ow, Eddie,ā€ he breaks off as Eddie digs his fingers into his ribs. ā€œFor sobriety’s sakeā€”ā€ He hauls Eddie up, and Eddie goes with an oof that’s sighed right into Buck’s mouth. His lips are soft and chapped against Buck’s, much more coordinated but just as purposeful as they were last night when they move against him.

The kissing is lazy, early morning stuff, gentle and easy. When Eddie yawns into it, Buck pulls away, running his hands down Eddie’s sides.

ā€œI really gotta go,ā€ Buck tells him, trying to extricate himself. ā€œGo back to sleep.ā€

ā€œYes boss,ā€ Eddie finally allows, rolling over to mash his face into a pillow.

He finds Buck setting out the flower arrangements only an hour later, though, and he’s got with him a kiss and a coffee and, true to his word, a love that persists through hangovers and weddings and drunkenness that’s not his own. Through every wildly outrageous and terribly boring moment of the rest of their lives, actually; the best and the worst and everything in between. A love that stays, and stays, and stays.

(read on ao3)

1 year ago
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1 year ago

"wish i could help" get on your knees and do it then

1 year ago

ā€œi wouldn’t want to piss off her ex: the lordā€ bobby if firefighting stops working for you you have a great career in comedy

1 year ago
Im Going Insane Anyone Want Anything?
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im going insane anyone want anything?

1 year ago

Can we talk about how ā€œUncle Buckā€ was never a thing before Jee-Yun? I mean, if we analyze the facts, we’ll see that Buck has been there for Eddie and Chris pretty much since day one. He cooks, he cleans, he plays with him, he stays overnight, takes him when Eddie’s busy, takes him to places, gives him gifts and helps when he’s not feeling well, I mean he LITERALLY saved him from a tsunami -and nearly killed himself trying to find him-. This shit is so fucking canon Eddie added Buck to his WILL, he told him ā€œthere’s no one I trust with my son more than youā€ over the women that he allegedly cared for and loved so much… we never hear anything remotely close to uncle or ā€œfriend of the familyā€. Even in the crossover when Eddie talks to Marjan about Buck helping him build the skateboard, he never explains who Buck is (which, if I were in that situation, I’d say ā€œthis blonde dude, yeah he’s like family tooā€), he simply says Buck, because that on ITSELF (!!!!) says it all. Y’all can give me all the shit y’all want but Uncle Buck was never a thing before Jee-Yun, because he was never an uncle before. He was a dad. A co-parent. And if he was a woman, Eddie & him would’ve been together long before all our crazy asses decided to even come here so that’s that on that & goodnight

10 months ago

okay no bc i actually need to see abuela having a meaningful talk with christopher about how shannon wasn’t a good mother and that he’s old enough to know the truth rather than eddie just over-romanticizing the whole thing

christopher does not need to be shamed for being upset at his mom leaving. the whole ā€œshe didn’t leave, she died šŸ„ŗā€ argument is just factually untrue when she fully intended to leave again before she had her accident

he does not need to be coddled and told about how hard it was for her when she was actively being just as ableist as ramon and helena. he is 13 years old; if he can make a decision on where he lives, he can hear the truth of how awful his mother was so that maybe he can actually provide sufficient context to the actions his dad has taken

yes, she was very young when christopher was born, and no eddie was not a perfect husband/father in the beginning; but the point is she didn’t even give him a chance to even begin processing his PTSD when he cane back, immediately vilifying him for everything before doing the same exact thing as what… petty revenge? giving him a taste of his own medicine? you’re an adult woman with a son who needed you and you walked out on him because you didn’t want the stress. okay, that’s fine, that’s your choice

but don’t show up once he’s older demanding to see him because ā€œhe’s my son tooā€ and then proceeding to shame eddie, the one who HAS been there for him after you left, for something he already has made clear he regrets, and has also atoned for by stepping up and actually taking responsibility rather than shirking them the moment it got ā€˜too hard’ when his parents would have been more than willing to let him do

and then to try and manipulate him with the whole ā€œhe’s my sonā€ ā€œwe can be a family againā€ bullshit as a way to get back into his pants— only to dip as soon as things start to get serious again?

and on top of that, the ā€œshe was just a girlā€ argument doesn’t even hold up because yeah, she WAS just a girl. she’s not just a girl anymore. she’s a grown adult woman shirking her responsibility because she doesn’t want to be a mother. That’s all well and good; she doesn’t have to be a mother. But once you make that decision, don’t go crawling back acting like you weren’t the one to actively decide to leave. You’re an adult, making adult decisions, and you need to handle the adult consequences of those adult decisions.

sorry no one will ever be able to convince me to like shannon and im sick of the writers trying to force rose tinted glasses on her existence bc of tim’s obsession with bringing devin back out of nowhere every two seconds

anyway sorry for the shannon rant i saw thay post i reblogged and it just reminded me how much anger i hold towards her for everything she did and how i hate it when people are like ā€œoh she changed she wanted to try again šŸ„ŗā€ when she quite literally didn’t, as is evident by the way she immediately tried to run away again the moment she had to be an adult.

also there is no way buck would EVER look at the way she treated chris and eddie and then actively be friends with her. friend-ly maybe, civil at best, but he would never look at the lasting hurt she caused those two and actively chose to persue a friendship with her.

anyway getting off my anti-shannon soap box and i just needed to get that off my chest lamo

1 year ago

Bobby was legit like, ā€œmy son’s cougar gf has left him to go find herself in Ireland. i must gift him something to make him happy so he’ll forget about her. ah yes! this ex-army medic will do nicelyā€

10 months ago

I feel the same way about my brother, when he gets to s7 i already told him he cant like him.

If my mom is a tommy fan I’m disowning her

1 year ago

Eddie: cheating on his girlfriend with his dead wife’s doppelgƤnger and lying to Buck about it

Bobby: meeting a man who also lost his wife in the fire he caused

HenRen: fighting for their traumatized daughter to get visitation with her brother

Maddie: retraumatizing herself by chasing leads on a woman that was abducted

Buck: in his lane, flourishing, moisturized, getting dicked down, making lasagna

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