Istg Antis LOVE Selfshipping But Still Need To Put Their Anti Stamps On It, Like, Bbg, What Do You THINK

When I feel better, I was thinking about starting some more self-ship centered posts like imagines and maybe reblog games if anyone is interested. All for proselfshippers of course! And still post general proship positivity and encouragement while I'm at it. I also draw and have improved a lot over the years so, BUT if this doesn't interest you guys on this blog I'll make a separate blog instead :) !

Hey don't be sad, imagine leaving lipstick marks all over f/os face. Alternatively f/o leaves lipstick marks on YOUR face. Alternatively if f/o has a screen for a face/some other face that has no lips/they wear masks they refuse to take off they use the lipstick from your kisses to transfer it to your face. Cheek nuzzles? I think so. Kiss f/o, don't be sad, f/o loves you, happy ✨

Hello may I gush to you? I'm going to do it anyway. This is something I wanna talk about and a confusing situation that I feel really bad about so-

So uh. My main ship, in any fandom, is sebaciel (Sebastian/Ciel from Kuroshitsuji/Black Butler). This is already A Thing because Ciel is like fourteen and Sebastian's a hundreds-of-years old demon, but I love them sm so. They're my favorites and I would do anything for it to be canon tbh. Now the problem with this is: I kin Sebastian.

I self-ship with Ciel because sebaciel was official in my canon, but I feel really bad about because Ciel's a child and ugh. Purity culture and christian upbringing + how most people would view me is not a good combo :/. But I love him a lot and god I would do anything for him. I feel bad about it though and I hate that I do because I know I have no reason to especially considering I'm closer than even the age Sebastian gives under human disguise.

Anyway I'm gonna gush about Ciel because I love my young master so. Like he's just, so small and precious, pretty little boy, I just want to scoop him up and take care of him. I would do literally anything for him I swear, I love him so much. He's so cute and pretty and genuinely smart and clever, he loves mystery(idk if that's actually the right word, there's a better one but I'm dumb-) books and would keep notes to try and figure out who the culprit was on his own. He loved rabbits and soft things and sweet things, especially chocolate, and I would give a lot to just watch his face light up when he eats it. He used to have nightmares, and I remember how long it took for him to let me comfort him after them. I love him so much.

Awww hey hey! Im so so sorry you feel so bad about selfshipping with Ciel, i do completely understand though! I too had a christian upbringing, though personally im now athiest, i still have the aftermath of the religious trauma my family gave to me, and it seeps into my proship views every once in a while, so do know you arent alone on that <3 You are completely valid for selfshipping with Ciel and are completely valid for shipping Sebaciel! Im absolutely sure you are perfect for Ciel though, your view on this does not affect who you are in real life love, dont let it affect you so deeply <3 But, still, what youve said so far, gushing about Ciel, is so cute!! I ship you two v much, please take care of yourself though darling, im sorry i dont have much else to say about this rn, and im sorry im replying to it so long after youve sent it, but feel free to come back and gush or talk more anytime <333

Hi sorry I'm coming across some posts of people being confused if proship means 'problematic ship' and people misusing the term proship FOR problematic ship who call themselves a proshipper, I think I've even used proship as a broad term on my blog to INCLUDE people who are darkship, who are still proship, since I think many of my followers are darkshippers, but I've been trying to make sure I say 'proship darkshippers' instead to avoid confusion, but. Proship is 'for shipping', pro = for. It's anti-harassment with fictional ships, the idea that every fictional ship deserves to exist without the enjoyers of said ship being harassed for it no matter the nature of the ship and no matter if that ship isn't your cup of tea. Blocking instead of harassing if it's a ship you dislike and not looking at the content made of that ship but keeping in mind that just because you dislike it doesn't mean it shouldn't exist in fiction, things like that. Profiction is the same concept except replace ships/shipping with fiction in general, once again pro = for. Darkshipping/darkfiction (or some people use the phrase 'dead dove do not eat', dead dove being the indicator that the media has dark content in it) is the term used for when a ship or a piece of fictional content has dark ideas incorporated into it. Like incest, non-consensual sex, adult x minor/loli/shota, etc.

Now here's the fickle part. A person can in fact be a darkshipper and enjoy dark fictional content and still not be a proshipper. A proshipper does not NEED to be a darkshipper, they are just anti-harassment. A darkshipper can, let's say, like incest ships, but if they dislike minor x adult ships, and they decide to harass someone who does enjoy those ships and believe that minor x adult ships shouldn't exist because they think it's 'too far' or 'too gross', they are not proship. Alternatively, someone could be very uncomfortable by any sort of darkship, they only like ships that have healthy dynamics and never incorporate dark ideas into their ships, but they don't harass people who do indulge in darkships and don't believe in the censorship of said ships just because they don't like it (they block and curate their online experience to fit their boundaries instead of going out of their way to harass people who break said boundaries). That person is a proshipper. So to reiterate, proship does not mean problematic ship, darkship is the term you're looking for. Now, knowing how words tend to change overtime in communities, perhaps I'm wrong or I've stated some incorrect information, and if I have please correct me 😭 but if not, I hope this all makes sense and helps at least someone out whose been confused.

what about proship positivity for the vocaloid fandom? : o it has a lot of antis ;;

Ofc love! Its posted <3

Hello, I just want to say thank you for existing, i need positivity in my life as a closeted proshipper who's surrounded by anti friends (´°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥ω°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥｀) your account is so cute and helpful

Awww thank you so much lovely!!! That really means alot, and ive been having a generally rough day today as it is so i really appreciate that <3 Thank YOU for existing too darling, you are a treasure and i hope youll find peace and a safe space soon, im so sorry most of your friends are antis, but dont ever be scared to message me or something if you need a proshipper friend to talk to <3 Take care hun, youre a wonderful being ♡♡♡

hey maybe cross-tagging posts about how much characters hate a specific group into that group’s tags is inherently malicious and youre an asshole if you do it!

no “we just do.” is not a valid reason. you dont know how important a certain character could be to someone and you are an absolute dick if you do this. 

Kill yourself

Did you know i'm a real person that you're saying this to, how does this make you any better than me when all I do is support peoples freedom in expressing their fictional creativity lol

i am sorry for that gross anon you got it made me sick.

They are so entitled. i Hope you are safe,

Remember, sending someone r//ape threat is sexual harrasment. Anon could face charges for that.

Hope you are okay don't be ashamed this was not your fault.

♥️

I'm sorry it made you feel sick anon <3 Hope you're doing alright, thank you for such a sweet ask. And you are right, harassing and threatening a real person is in fact a crime, I'm not sure why antis insist fictional ships and ideas are illegal but go on to do something that is legitimately illegal and harmful. But it's been like this for a long time now unfortunately. Take care of yourself anon, thank you again! <3

If pro-ship and dark-ship aren't the same why do you say pro-ship should not correlate to your views irl in your pinned, are you saying you shouldn't be anti-harassment irl?? Genuine question btw I don't understand.

Hi anon, I'm glad you asked, I felt like I needed to elaborate on that more since I started to realize it could cause some confusion/misunderstandings oops 😭 What I mean by saying that, is that when you are proship, you are aware that every ship deserves to exist in fiction, whether or not it's something you like, right? But I'm saying that shouldn't translate to what you believe should be okay to exist IRL, as in you know, for example, incest ships are okay to exist in fiction because it's fictional, no real person is being hurt, and though maybe it's not your cup of tea, you'll just block it and move on knowing it's okay for it to exist in it's fictional realm. But you shouldn't believe it's okay for that sort of relationship to exist in real life. I'm sure most people know this, y'know, but just in case. I see a lot of people who only think things shouldn't exist for the simple fact it disgusts them or makes them 'cringe' and it's to the point those things shouldn't exist IRL because it causes harm to real people, so if someone happens to not be disgusted by that kind of relationship IRL, maybe because they know it's okay it exists in fiction, and decides it's okay for that relationship to exist IRL just as much as it's okay for it to exist in fiction, then that's just not something I can agree with, so I put that disclaimer so people know right off the bat that everything I'm supportive of in dark fiction does not correlate to what I see as acceptable IRL, plus proship and profiction is purely for fiction in this regard- everything deserves to exist in fiction, as it causes no harm to real people. Though, I don't go out harassing anyone of course, this is the stance of a proshipper; antiharassment, I just block people who have views that are too contradictory to mine for me to get along with. If I ever felt someone was at risk of doing harmful things IRL I'd report them as needed and then block. All in all it's just a disclaimer for people to know if I'm someone they can interact with or not. This isn't to say I'm just strictly against paraphiles by the way, I do think there's a difference between someone holding a harmful attraction and getting help for it and knowing it's NOT okay to have that kind of relationship IRL so they don't pursue it, versus thinking it's okay to have that relationship IRL and/or pursuing it (therefore causing a real person harm), but this part mostly ties into my anti-contact stance. I hope this all makes sense and if you need anything else to be elaborated on please do ask! I like to avoid misunderstandings as much as possible and am always open to explaining anything that needs to be elaborated on. Think of that 'there's no such thing as a stupid question' saying because that's what I believe in lol