So Talking Of Finales Penned By Spn Writers.
So talking of finales penned by spn writers.
One of my fav comics the last few years has been Spider-Man/Deadpool, written by our very own Robbie Thompson.
Obviously, Deadpool is a character I was always gonna be fond of, since his fourth-wall breaking power / chatacter trait makes him all about the meta, and metafiction is My Jam.
Spider-Man/Deadpool has the additional fun of being about Wade and Peter's relationship specifically, which is just fun and adorable any which way, but the series also makes constant nods to the idea of them as a romantic couple (the title IS a LITERAL REFERENCE to slash fic/shipping). Never in a baity way either. The writing celebrates the idea of Spider-Man/Deadpool without ever teasing the idea it might actually happen. It's mostly Wade explicitly referencing them as a slash pairing in his various fourth-wall breaking speeches, while in the 'reality' of the universe the writing is pretty clear on the fact Peter only thinks of Wade platonically (or occasionally antagonistically :p), while Wade genuinely has an explicit romantic crush, but overall just simply respects and cares for Spider-Man as a person and primarily wants to be and have him as a friend (tho there's absolutely, deliberate, space left in the writing to imagine/fanfic a mutual romance between if you want).
(ASIDE: PETER PARKER IS NOT A KID IN THIS CURRENT VERSION OF MARVEL CANON HE IS 100% AN OF AGE ADULT, like he is in the Spiderverse film - in case anyone was freaking out)
So yeah, that's all fun and sweet and completely catering to my interests.
One of the big, big things about the characters and their relationship, though, is the fact that WADE DOES NOT KNOW SPIDER-MAN'S IDENTITY. And this quickly became one of, if not THE, things at the heart of their evolving friendship/relationship. The closer they get, the more and more you WANT Wade to find out or, better, for Peter to TELL HIM. Because you want them to reach that place of love and trust where they each know intimate things about each other, where Peter cares about and knows he can trust Wade enough to share that vulnerable truth about himself.
So, Peter telling Wade his secret identity - that's, basically, the ship/relationship endgame everyone is rooting for.
SO.
In the *cries* final storyline of the series, this whole epic Thing happens, that I won't explain cos it'll take too long. But basically, the world appears to be ending and in that context of dire and angsty straits - Peter reveals his identity to Wade! *insert Deadpool movie shock gif*
Now closer than ever, they team up with a rag tag collection of other characters to take on the Big Bad and, long story short, they discover the whole epic end of the world Thing has been a fake reality created by the real villain of the piece -
THE WRITER, aka Robbie himself!
Due a series of implausible comic book events they are able to confront and defeat him and he offers this in his defence -
and I just -
<3
aw Robbie
your supervillain origin story was... WANTING FICTIONAL CHARACTERS AND THEIR RELATIONSHIPS TO GROW?
(#relatable)
When I first read this (which was, oh, back near the very beginning of spn S15) I thought
a) amusing that an ex-spn writer is, like spn itself, writing a meta story in which the writer is the villain
b) it's funny how spn's villain writer and Robbie's villain writer both harm/manipulate their characters for the exact opposite reasons - Chuck wants to prevent the characters from developing, comic!Robbie wants to force them TO develop
(and c) I wonder if this lament over characters not being allowed to grow, and the fact that wanting to change that associates Robbie with villainy, in any way connects to... other writing jobs he may have had... before the comic...)
The tragedy, tho, is that after his defeat, as Spider-Man and Deadpool are locking comic!Robbie away, he tells them his capture doesn't matter because in the end HE WON, because Wade now knows Spider-Man's identity!!
To which we end with this -
The growth Robbie wanted was denied!
*sad face*
(I forget the in-universe explanation, if there was an explicit one - either defeating comic!Robbie and his fake world caused all memory/experience if that world to be lost/destroyed... or there was genuinely no real explanation and that in itself was a meta nod to how comic book narrative is constantly dropping/discarding/ignoring/retconning plot points in order to maintain the wider status quo of the comic universe narrative)
AND YET - while the biggest growth of learning Peter's identity was denied (presumably because, as noted above, wider comic book canon requires/insists both characters and their relationship remain in a specific, static, status quo - so the industry can keep churning out multiple comics with them without necessarily having to bother with the extra time/hassel of researching specifics of continuity - because, money), as Peter and Wade's further discussion points out, SOME development HAS happened at least. Wade has grown more moral/heroic in how he doesn't immediately kill his enemies. And Peter has come to care deeply enough about Wade to be proud of him for this and tell him so. AND they walk away together side by side, their friendship cemented.
So bottom line - the story ends. And it's not in the BEST way. It denies the readers and the characters (and the writer!) the fulfilment of that key endgame plot point.
And YET.
It manages to still be a funny, heartwarming and ultimately SATISFYING end. One that, tongue in cheek, lampshades the development the rest of the story has, in many ways, been building up to and, using metafictional tricks, tells readers in a way that is funny, entertaining and also feels somewhat apologetic, that it simply wasn't a plot the creatives involved were able to give. But offers SOME growth at least, and leaves things open enough for readers to imagine the characters are poised for more in the near future (...although due to the nature of comics that may well have been jossed by other comic book runs at this point - I haven't read any that include the characters since this title ended).
WHY am I making a longass post about this you ask?
Well
a) because the comic is great and I think more people should read it, consider this a recommend (tho sorry for spoilers!)
b) ...just ...wanted to big up Robbie Thompson for a bit. A++ Robbie, way to land an ending, both in fiction and meta, kudos to you, nice to be reminded that it can be done!
(also in case by some miracle anyone at Marvel is reading this - I said the ending was satisfying, but that doesn't mean I WOULDN'T SPEND GOOD MONEY ON A REVIVAL OF THIS TITLE IN A HEARTBEAT! just because I'm ok with the last comic being the end doesn't mean I don't WANT MORE WITH A BURNING PASSION why must you cancel all my favs?? ...*coughs* so, yes, thank you any Marvel execs for your time...)
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Okay. Uh... What do you want me to type in?
Well! Um. I’m not entirely sure, and as I believe I’ve said before, I don’t quite know how Tvtropes works, but, some things that I think could be added in are:
-Papyrus is actually capable of lying straight to your face (as in the x/o puzzle he claims needs to be solved to proceed, but he could actually just step over the spikes), and you might never notice.
-Some of the mysterious things about him, such as his room being the only room that has no music, and will reset the dev-room music if you enter while it’s playing; his being the only character to consistently speak without an asterisk; some of his bones being black. Oh, and his text constantly shaking just slightly, while the only other person to do that is the narrator.
-Papyrus is in fact aware of more than he lets on, and seems to be playing up his cluelessness a lot of the time, for example, when called alone near the lab he doesn’t question what it is, instead saying that Sans would love it, but when Sans is present, he acts as if he has no idea what it is.
-He brings up things that happen further on in the game, or in a different run, several times! For instance: in the first bridge-seed room, he asks why there aren’t “phones that can turn into jetpacks”, which is what your phone becomes when Alphys modifies it; he mentions Mettaton’s “eyes” in one of the elevator rooms, which Mettaton doesn’t have yet, but does have in his EX form; he says that the king will trim a hedge in the shape of his smile, which happens in the Pacifist ending; he claims that “this is the worst possible ending” in the Pacifist ending itself, because he didn’t get into the Royal Guard, which is something that happens in a neutral ending! (and also, it’s questionable how serious he’s being about that statement in itself, since his expression is quite happy there.)
-He seems completely fine with dying in the neutral run, and jokes about it - and the expression he makes while being hit is the same as when he’s on the date/hangout; even Sans drops his grin a little when he’s killed.
-Papyrus seems to be able to see where you are, at times; he says “that bag of dog food looks familiar” when called in the lab, and a phonecall in the tutu room that seems to have been removed, had him saying “Where’d you go? I can’t see you!” before trying to pass it off by saying that he couldn’t see you because you were on the phone.
………well, that became long. I hope this can be of use! ^^;
Since I’ve written so much, I think I’ll just post this one. The strange Papyrus things can never be brought up too often! :D
Today, I am sharing a 30-second video that captures the heartbreaking moment our home was destroyed!!!!
This place was not just a building; it was where countless memories were made, laughter was shared, and love was felt. Watching it turn to rubble is a pain I can't describe,
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Back at the sea.
My home. Our home.
The crashing waves. The sunsets melting into the salt water. They are my friends who help me connect with the world.
I comb the waves with my hands and think of Iman who said to me, “I was preparing for the worst.”
On the other side of this sea, Iman prepares meals for her two children with whatever she can scrape together.
“We have lost all our livelihoods because of this war, and we are still clinging to life.”
I cling. I cling to the word.
There, little Amir rocks his baby sister to sleep. He knows a hunger I have never experienced.
“We don’t know what tomorrow holds. We have lost everything beautiful and we are about to lose more.”
I refuse to lose you. There is a glimmer of hope.
Please share this story and join me in helping my friend’s beloved wife Iman and her family. Within each of us is a light that can transform a dim glimmer into a flowing stream of abundant hope.
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