I chose to focus on those two because of one sole reason: the IMMENSE contrast between the ways Jay and Kai handle grief. Complete opposites.
before i Start i wanna say I don’t have anything against jay, I love him too guys
Jay, time and time again, shows self centeredness in times of grief (again, not saying it’s his fault that’s just how he copes) He leads himself to believe that only he ever loved this person, and that no on else feels the same way. jay is also very expressive- he cries, he mourns, he is verbal throughout his grief. for example, he talks to water in order to feel some grasp of nya close to him- it shows how expressive he his with his longing for her. furthermore, two more examples:
the widely known one: Kai and Jays fight. JAY is the one who suggested they shouldn’t be a team anymore, he is the one who started the fight, and he’s the one who said no one loved/missed nya BUT him.
now, one might say
“But Kai was inconsiderate! He knocked down Jay’s water glass!”
lemme tell you buddy. jay shouldn’t be talking to water glasses in the FIRST place. secondly, this was kai’s way of showing concern, and allow me to remind you that kai still bothered to show concern for jay, when even before the fight jay was saying things like “only I miss nya” “I love her” “we are nothing without her”
secondly, did u guys notice the immense regret and sadness when kai knocked his glass over?
LOOK AT KAI’S EXPRESSION. he is DEVASTATED. he didn’t MEAN to. and on top of that, he is closing his eyes. if you’re a total kai observer, like I am, you’ve noticed that he looks away or dissociates if situations are too emotionally overbearing for him (nyas death, both times, when chen tells him about the fact that his parents might be evil and left them on purpose, etc etc). kai even said sorry, in a heartbreaking tone. he UNDOUBTEDLY would have apologized more profusely if jay didn’t attack immediately.
the other example is Season four, episode two. The ninja were in chens place discussing Zane’s death. jay says “I moved on. I feel guilt. These are not good feelings!” again, kai feels like he is being indirectly attacked, due to jay subtly suggesting that only he feels guilt. kai then says, “You think you feel bad? Imagine how I feel!”
and you might think oh but Kai is being self centered now. no. He’s not. Because remember what Lloyd told him before? Lloyd said Kai was selfish, for wanting to die instead of Zane. Kai felt suppressed and used jays words as a chance in desperation to vocalize some of his pain because he had no other chance to. And every time kai stated ANYTHING related to Grief, it’s automatically considered selfish whereas when jay does it it’s totally fine. kai’s feelings are ALWAYS being dismissed.
Kai handles grief destructively. He drinks, blames himself, mentally tortures himself. He literally has never cried in front of the others and silences his grief because he is criticized for it, especially by jay. It’s not that he isn’t vocal, it’s the fact that he CANT be. He’s SCARED to be.
both were in immense pain, but, and I literally don’t even know how many times I’ve said this, but the show needs to properly address this problem. kai being portrayed as selfish during grief is UNFAIR, and does not make sense AT ALL, when everything he says or does contrasts ‘selfishness’.
So ninjago finally ended. Had to make a quick sketch to celebrate since I've been following the show for nearly a decade now. Congrats to it for being the first franchise I ever remember making fanart of.
Respectfully, some of you in the ninjago fandom REALLY need to get this in your ears:
the amount of grief jay felt about nya’s death IS NOT LARGER THAN THE AMOUNT OF GRIEF KAI FELT.
familial love and romantic love are two different things. and yes, depending on circumstances and the people themselves, one can be stronger than the other.
BUT NOT IN NYA’S CASE. KAI AND JAY LOVE NYA EQUALLY. JAY DID NOT MISS NYA MORE THAN KAI. KAI JUST HID HIS GRIEF, AND MAYBE IS COPING IN A DIFFERENT WAY. KAI AND JAY ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE. BUT THEY LOVE NYA EQUALLY.
so stop saying jay was more upset over nya’s death when kai literally held her when she was a child and raised her and was there for nya her entire life. nya missed them both, and they both missed her. thats it.
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don’t lie
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I JUST WANNA SAY I LOVE UR POSTS SM ESPECIALLY THE KAI ONES BC HE'S MY FAVE UR A GODSEND AND UR EVERYTHING I ASKED FOR IN THIS FANDOM *gushes about Kai*
THANK YOU LOVE!! THIS MEANS ALOT TO ME!! *gushes about kai alongside you*
Kai 🤝 Lloyd 🤝 Nya
Everything bad that’s ever happened is my fault
AND I AGREE?? WE HAVE THE SAME THOUGHT PROCESS I LOVE YOU VERY MUCH MITZLE
and again, adding to all of this, it’s also sometimes easy to forget that ninjago is a kids show- which is exactly what angers me more. Kids should be shown romantic relationships are important; there is nothing wrong with that. However hundreds of kids could relate to a sibling relationship, and could maybe even learn from Kai and Nya, and get closer to their own siblings! When I was younger I looked up to Kai, because he was an older sibling and I could relate to that. Other kids could do the exact same!
The writers have indeed diminished the value of Kai and Nya’s relationship, overlooking it and portraying to so many kids that romance reigns over family every time. I just wish they would change, because Kai and Nya are siblings and downgrading the important value of sibling relationships seems to be the writers ultimate goal. And honestly? This really needs to stop.
Respectfully, some of you in the ninjago fandom REALLY need to get this in your ears:
the amount of grief jay felt about nya’s death IS NOT LARGER THAN THE AMOUNT OF GRIEF KAI FELT.
familial love and romantic love are two different things. and yes, depending on circumstances and the people themselves, one can be stronger than the other.
BUT NOT IN NYA’S CASE. KAI AND JAY LOVE NYA EQUALLY. JAY DID NOT MISS NYA MORE THAN KAI. KAI JUST HID HIS GRIEF, AND MAYBE IS COPING IN A DIFFERENT WAY. KAI AND JAY ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE. BUT THEY LOVE NYA EQUALLY.
so stop saying jay was more upset over nya’s death when kai literally held her when she was a child and raised her and was there for nya her entire life. nya missed them both, and they both missed her. thats it.
Wu: You’re violent.
Kai: Yeah but I’m short, so it’s adorable.
GUYSSS!!! Kai is AMBIDEXTROUS!!
I WAS REWATCHING THE OLDER SEASONS AND, he holds the sword of fire with his LEFT HAND. AND IN RECENT EPISODES holds swords in both hands and USES THEM with both hands and HOW HAVE I NEVER REALIZED THIS?!?!?
the superhero: lloyd
the supervillain: kai
the mayor: nya
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