Not me coming back on here just to find out Argyle isn’t gonna be in the next season…like bro was the best part of season 4 and they aren’t gonna make him come back??? Great way to ruin your fucking show, not like most people are gonna watch it anyways cause some of your fucking cast members can’t even show compassion to those who are hurting (and dying) as we fucking speak…fucking ridiculous.
no cause considering that billy didn’t knew shit, the situation at the byers house is really weird. like, a legal adult lying about his underage (basically a kid, not a teen yet) sister not being here, when she’s in fact here with him and three boys is very sketchy. and steve doesn’t have a great reputation with girls, he’s a known womanizer. and it’s the 80’s. and karen probably not the first adult that was interested in billy, he knows how a person older than you can be. he can think only abt one thing and i don’t want to say it so. kinda understand him on this one. also if i’ll see my lil brother in a situation like that i’ll be pulling out a knife not a fist 🏃🏽♀️
Sometimes I wish that the Duffers hadn’t managed to cast an amazing group of actors for ST so that it would be easier to see how abysmal at worst and mediocre at best the show really is.
Literally all of the most beloved moments, lines, and changes to characters/storylines are due to the actors’ improvisations and suggestions.
Honestly, the entire time watching S3, I was clinging onto the hope that, by some miracle, he was going to be saved, that the main cast will say “yeah, Billy was a major dick to most of us, but NO ONE deserves to be used by that monster in such a gruesome way” and that he was make it out alive. BARELY, but alive.
But WHAT did they do??
Delay every possible second they had to kill the Mind Flayer (and possibly save Billy) and put in some corny ass singing montage for some cheap laughs. Some forced cutesy montage was given more importance than giving Billy a fighting chance to make it out alive.
….let me tell you, I have never felt a bigger slap in the face by a TV show EVER.
The Duffers gave Billy’s character the ultimate middle finger. By not giving him a chance to change and repent for his actions. By not giving his relationship with Max a chance to heal and grow into a more healthy dynamic. By not letting Billy become a better person, than BOTH of his parents.
There was SO much potential to show that people who turn out like Billy ARE capable of change, to undo the toxic coping mechanisms that they learned, to heal their relationships, and, most importantly IMO, that they are worth fighting for.
The Duffers really demonstrated that they don’t know how to handle the complexities of their own characters and that they don’t really give a shit anyway. It’s all about the cheap laughs and lazily recycling 80’s tropes.
The theories of Billy (and Dacre) possibly returning is the only reason why I will try and watch S4. And if Billy only returns as flashbacks, I will stay for those scenes and then leave the rest of the story up for my imagination.
Look I know how much we all hate Neil. I hate him too, with all my heart. But just a fact - billy's mother abandoned her son. She left him. With Neil, knowing what kind of person he was. She made a choice to save herself, but to leave her little son to drown.
Neil could've given billy for adoption/foster home/abandoned him too. He didn't. He kept him. As a punching bag. Was it the only reason? My guess is, he was.just.responsible. Just like his own dad had probably taught him to be.
I don't know what's better in this case, honestly, to be given up for foster care or to be abused by your father during YEARS.
I hate Neil, but I hate Billy's mom more.
And Billy???? I've read a lot of fics how he hates his dad. And, yes, he should. He does hate his dad. However, that's the thing about parents - no matter how much you hate them, deep down, in your core, you love them. The relationship between parents and children is so hopelessly complicated.
Why am I writing all this? To cry about billy one more time. I think he loved his mom, despite the fact that she selfishly chose her own interests over the well-being of her son. I even think Billy loved his dad, under all those layers of hate, despite the fact that he was an abusive piece of shit.
I'm writing it to once again put into words my disgust for the duffers, because BECAUSE you don't take a broken teenager, show everyone HOW and why he was broken and torn, and then kill him off to a tune of Neverending story or whatever this stupid song was called.
The more I think about Billy, the more heartbroken I become because it's abysmal, how deep his suffering was. Instead of fixing it, they chose the Neverending story finale, sending what kind of message to all the broken teens out there ..???? That it's all fucking hopeless?? That you can drown in your pain and nobody will give a damn?
Fuck them, honestly. You can't really make a cheap goo monster horror story based on the suffering of a child.
Aaand I made myself cry again. Yay.
no offense but the relationship that y'all seem to think steve and eddie have is actually the relationship that jonathan and argyle have.
Check out my playlist I made for everyone’s favorite anti-couple!
The fact that they only appeared in like 10 episodes is a sin
A fun fact about me is that I utterly loathe Stranger Things as a clumsy narrative and as a pop culture megalith—except in the areas where it concerns the 5-ish characters that were written with some genuine depth or pizazz and thus too good for the series to effectively explore.
So, basically Eddie is basically the Billy we wanted and wrote in fic…I see
There have been countless mini-essays about how Billy anti’s hate him because he’s an “inconvenient abuse victim,” and how because he doesn’t react perfectly to his abuser, that that somehow means he deserves to be hated/left behind/left to die.
And it seems that because of this newest interview with Caleb that even some Billy stans here and on twitter are now buying into that kind of thinking too. I can’t even begin to tell you how disappointed I am in those people.
You know all that racist/violent/abusive behavior is from his father, you know that if he’d lived past s3 he would have turned his life around. He’s a 17-18 year old kid in the 80′s, he’s not doomed to forever be a monster.
It’s literally been like: “Oh no! This imperfect character that I like for being imperfect has been acting imperfectly this whole time!” suprise pickachu face blah blah whatever
me too girl.. me too
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