The Spoilers For Destiel Shippers

The Spoilers for Destiel Shippers

Here is what I think...  Supernatural has had 8 amazing seasons and 3 of them didn't even have Castiel in them!  

I think that no matter what, if the spoilers are true or not, we're still going to have a good season.  They haven't disappointed us yet imo and I don't think they will.  

There is no point in worrying about what MAY happen in the season about destiel as we don't have anything confirmed about them.  If something happens that is displeasing, then we can have our fandom freak out, but until then I think we should just keep enjoying the anticipation for a wonderful new season of Supernatural!

.... Even if they're true, just imagine all the long distance pining Dean and Cas will have :)  We are shippers and we'll make the best of it!  

Just stay positive!

Again, just my opinion on the spoilers.

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11 years ago

Cas As Dean's Romantic Interest

Reasons why I personally think Cas is a perfect choice to be Dean's romantic interest!  :)

These are MY PERSONAL OPINIONS!!  Don't take them to heart if they don't agree with yours!  :)

1.  The Playing Field

Originally Dean was drawn in by the apple pie life with Lisa and Ben and he loved it and them (I shipped Lisa and Dean when they were together :P).  But, it wasn't made to last, because it just wasn't who he was.  He wanted to keep saving people and being a hunter.  So, Dean needs someone who already knows about the things that go bump in the night.

Cas is/was an angel so we can all agree that Cas knows Dean's playing field.

2.  Ability

Dean is like a mother hen as we have all seen time and time again with Sam.  He would need someone who can take care of themselves if trouble came around.  If he were with someone who wasn't a skilled hunter or badass, he would definitely be fretting about their safety.  

Cas is/was an angel and while he is human now, that doesn't mean that he has forgotten how to throw a punch or kick an ass or two, just that he can't teleport or smite.  I think given time to adjust to being human, Cas will be about or just as formidable as the Winchester brothers.  Dean wouldn't have to worry about Cas and trust that he can take care of himself.

3.  Sam

Now, let me start off by addressing the issue of concern that "destiel going canon would draw the brothers apart" and become the "Dean and Cas" show.  Supernatural will NEVER become the "Dean and Cas" show.  The show writers and actors won't let all their hard work in developing this story and the familial bonds of the brothers to devolve into a common soap opera with monsters and a suddenly estranged brother (have some faith in the people that have brought us 8 amazing seasons!!! :D)

Now this applies to not just Cas, but anyone being romantically interested in Dean (or Sam).  No one wants the brothers with anyone, because of this (except their ship lol).

With Cas though, this wouldn't happen.  Cas has been involved pretty heavily in both the Winchesters lives (leaning more towards Deans') for 4 seasons now.  And he has had zero effect in driving them apart.  They already have a profound bond and love for one another.  

Please, don't argue with that last statement.  You know they do even if you don't see it as a romantic love.  Dean himself said it, he said that Cas was like family and a brother to him.  Dean loves his brother and he loves his family (Bobby, Ellen, Jo, John, Sam) so being family, Dean loves Cas.  He stated he would die for him, that he needs him.  Dean LOVES Cas.  That is CANON.  How you interpret that love is completely up to you though :)

As I was saying, they have had 4 years together of love and bonding time and this has not effected the brothers relationship.  If anything, it makes them talk more.  Like consulting with each other to stop Cas when he went of the rails and all Godstiel on everyone or discussing Deans' motives for praying to Castiel, etc.  

Cas becoming something a little more to Dean isn't going to drive the brothers apart and will help keep true to the story.  

Another randomly introduced person will most likely not get positive fan reaction as we have seen in the past with other potential romantic interests, and there would have to be a considerable amount of time put into Dean interacting with said character to build up a bond strong enough for the fandom to believe in it and accept it.  THAT would take time away from the brothers, because I'm sure we can agree that we hold high standards for these boys in their relationships :)  We love them!

4.  Sam

Although Dean doesn't need approval from Sam, I'm sure he would want it.  Why?  Sam is Dean's everything and Dean would want to make sure he is with a person that his baby brother gets along with, because Sam is for life and if this person was for life too, they would need to get along or else that person is going to get canned.  

Good news!  Sam likes Cas.  He is quick to defend him and considers him a friend, even if he finds him a bit awkward at times.  He even entrusted his brother to Cas and told him to keep Dean out of trouble!  Problem solved!

5.  Sam

Sam is a huge part of Dean's life and will always come first (just like he said in the finale).  Dean's potential partner would need to really understand this and accept their unhealthy co-dependence on one another.  

Good news again!  Cas has been watching these brothers for years and understands their devotion to one another and even  used it against them once by cracking Sams' gourd.  He gets their relationship and would never put himself before Sam for Dean.  In fact in the S8 finale, he brought Dean to Sam first before bolting and doing what he felt he needed to do.  

I feel another person could do the same, but most would probably feel jealous about it.  Even, Lisa with the patience of a saint knew that she couldn't have Dean if Sam was still alive.  She was kind enough to not make Dean choose, but a lot of people need that kind of commitment that he can't give.

Cas gets it and goes along with it.  Why?  Have no clue, but it's what he does.  

6.  Perfection

Dean has incredibly low self esteem as we've seen countless times.  If Dean was placed with someone who was perfect, I can't help but feel he might compare himself to them and feel that he wasn't worthy of their love.  Dean isn't perfect and he can't be with someone who is perfect.

Luckily, Cas is also not perfect.  Cas has made a TON of mistakes and Dean has seen most of them in action.  He knows Cas isn't perfect now, but he chooses to keep reaching out to him despite this.  

Dean also needs someone who knows his imperfections and accepts them wholely.  Someone who finds out that Dean mutilated souls in hell moooooost likely will turn tail and run from all his guilt and self worthlessness issues.  Cas saw him in action with that and pulled him straight out.  Despite seeing Dean at his worst, Cas keeps coming to him and reaching out as well.

Those are MY main reasons I think Cas makes a good candidate for Dean's romantic interest.  I mean there's all the usual things like their bond, eye sex, subtext, etc.  But I feel these are the core things that COULD make him a candidate.  

Not saying that there are reasons why he wouldn't, but hey!  Every relationship has some bumps yeah?  

I don't think I want to see them be all mushy and gooey, because that isn't either of them.  I think I just want at the end of the show to see Dean hop into the Impala with Cas in the front seat and they drive off together to hunt some monsters and be together forever while Sam lives a beautiful life with his own family that allows Dean to visit him as much as he wants.  :)  


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4 years ago

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11 years ago

How I Got Started Into Destiel and Where It's Headed

Sorry, yet another long piece, but I feel it needs to be said.  I apologize as my thoughts tend to jump around a lot when I do these and sometimes it can be a bit confusing.  

Just to clarify, I am not hating on ANYONE and these thoughts are my opinions so you don't have to take anything I say to heart if it doesn't coincide with your belief.  

I hope though that it may bring a little peace and calm about recent events to at least a few.  :)  

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I have been watching Supernatural since episode 1 of season 1 aired.  

I am also a Destiel shipper.  It took me a while to actually see it though.  

I was in the middle of season 6 when I found out that shipping Dean and Cas together was actually a thing.  I honestly had never even thought of them as a pairing.  They seemed too platonic at the time and I didn't really get it, but I'm the type of person that doesn't care what people ship as long as they love their ship.

I ended up looking it up, curiosity getting the better of me, to see why people were shipping these two.  What was the driving force?  Looking at a few things I started to think,"Oh, okay.  I guess I can kinda see how they could ship that."  

It was a fun ship though and so I dabbled in it a bit and then read some meta on everything and decided to ship it.  I liked it, they were cute, you could kinda reason that they might be in love.

Season 7 rolled around and I was like "Haha, that was definitely a shout out...  Too funny!" for some of it.  They were showing their fans that they do listen to what they say, even if they can't give them it 100% what they want.  I appreciate it when they do that.  They are trying.

But I honestly really didn't see it with these two until it was brought to my attention, which is probably how most of the audience has been.  Not everyone who watches t.v. picks apart every little thing that is thrown in like sharp and avid fans do (this is meant as a compliment).  Most, like myself, just take the obvious and roll with it.

Then season 8 rolled around... and I kinda stopped myself and was like... "Are they?"  

The writers and actors kind of toed the line a bit more obviously.  Something in season 8 had switched from the previous seasons concerning Dean and Cas.  This is where a lot more people, especially casual watchers took notice.  

I've been interested to see how far they would push it and watching the beginning of season 9, they are basically giving us a fanfic with these two.  

Dean giving a heartfelt prayer to Cas and saying "I need you here"?  Cas getting stabbed just as Dean comes to rescue him, Dean breaking after realizing he was too late, his relief when Cas is alive again?  How HAPPY Dean is that Cas is in the bunker with them?  When was the last time that you saw Dean really smile so joyously as Cas being in the bunker, conversing, safe, and with him?  Then to throw even more drama into their relationship, having Dean lie to Cas and make him leave?  

This is like that part in a fic where you want to stop reading because it hurts too much, but you keep going because you KNOW it's going to get resolved after much heartache (unless this is a death fic).

Now a lot of people are upset about this, but this is what we've been asking for really.  

We want more Destiel action.  We can't have a Destiel arc without some drama between the two of them.  Do you know how guilty Dean is going to feel?  How badly he's going to be pining for Cas to come back?  He FINALLY had Cas where he could just STAY and now he has to be the one to make him leave.  

If you think that this is the writers trying to break their relationship apart for good, then I must ask where you all dropped those wonderful insights of yours?  The ones that were able to see where all this was headed WAY before people such as myself?  If you can't see that this is the way that Dean and Cas's relationship is going to grow stronger, I don't know what to tell you.  

Just because Destiel is not canon and has never been canon, does not mean that it doesn't exist or that it won't.  Doesn't mean we shouldn't stop shipping it.  

How many of your ships have actually been canon?  Quite a few have not been I'm sure if you're like me.  

Does that mean that we stop shipping them?  No! 

Even if they gain a love interest?  Hell No!!

Because when you ship a ship, you see it for what it is.  No one can convince you otherwise if that's what you believe in.  

I choose to believe in Dean and Castiel's relationship, whether it be canon or not.  I believe it is there.  I believe it is strong.  I believe nothing will be able to keep them apart.  

The truth however, about Destiel, is that it was never intended to exist.  When this show was created Castiel most likely wasn't even a concept.  This story originally started with 2 brothers killing things.  Now this story is about those 2 brothers and their adopted family killing things.

So where then, do I think this show is heading with Dean and Cas?  Definitely not the route that has everyone upset.

9x03 actually made me hopeful about their relationship.  Whether or not the writers make it canon romance, they are showing us, by setting us up for a typical "break up and make up" with these two that they have no intentions of destroying this beautiful relationship.  They are acknowledging that there is a bond there.

I'm not positive that Dean and Cas will ever have that fluffy romance that everyone dreams of.  Their lives are not built for that and that kind of relationship never seems to last in this show.  And again, Dean doesn't do that "love... and love thing."  

But what I am seeing the set up for is for Cas to basically be initiated as the 3rd Winchester brother.  (Which is basically the best Team Free Will thing ever!)

The one thing that bothers me slightly about this approach though is how close Dean and Cas are compared to how close Cas and Sam are.  They are friends definitely and they would die for each other, but Dean and Cas... are close on a whole other level.  It IS different between these two and I feel this is where there is a problem.

I don't think Cas CAN become a Winchester BROTHER.  

Cas is different to Dean than anything.  Dean does not treat Cas like Sam, like Bobby, like Ellen or Jo, like Garth, like John or Mary, like Lisa or Ben, or any of their other random hunting buddies.  Cas... is Cas.  

"He's Cas."

Cas is family.  But he doesn't have a title.  He CAN'T have a title, because Dean doesn't do romance and Cas doesn't fit anything else.  I think that Sam gets that.  It's almost like Cas is Sam's brother and Cas is Dean's something undefined.  

Despite the fact that I feel Dean and Cas have something going on, I don't think Destiel will become canon in the sense that many of us want to see (it might, who knows).  The reason why?  Destiel isn't pertinent to the story right now.  

#1 Cas is newly human.  He definitely has a lot to figure out before jumping head first into a relationship where he most likely doesn't even understand feelings.  Most of us suck at relationships and we've had years to practice feelings.

#2 It's kind of hard to worry about your love life when there are angels on your ass and Abaddon in your face.  They have bigger fish to fry right now.

If the way to save the day was for Dean to admit his feelings to Cas?  Then we can say that Destiel is pertinent to the plot.  Or if this was a soap opera where relationships are the driving point of the show?  Then we can say that Destiel could be pertinent to the plot.  

But the writers have already done the "gay love love can pierce through the veil of death" thing and while Supernatural IS a love story, it is not a soap opera.  

That doesn't mean that Destiel will never happen, because if you're like me... you already believe it has.  

I mean look at all the evidence you've all compiled!  Look at all the people that are starting to notice!  Look how many polls you've won and how many shippers there are!

There IS something there between Dean and Cas and we don't need anyone to confirm what we know is there.  We can SEE it.  It's there and I think we find it wonderful just the way it is.  So even if we don't get to see an "onscreen kiss" we can be happy that our ship is one of the most beautiful love stories ever told. AND we didn't even need them to have kiss or have sex to prove it! :)  

And man if we want porn or fluff!.... Well... that's what we invented fan fiction for right?

So relax.  Destiel is not dead.  It is not sinking.  It's just that terrible time of anguish before their relationship gets even stronger and becomes more difficult to deny.  

Show your support for the writers, actors, and crew!  They put SO much effort into trying for us.  They have such limited time on episodes to put everything they'd like to in.  

So when they give us a Destiel moment, let's take it and run with it!  Because they thought we were important enough to find time in their tight timeline to try and give us a little of what we want even if it's not ALL we want.

Love the crew.

Love yourself.

Love your ship.

Love Supernatural.

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Don't Ever Stop Trying In Everlasting Love (DESTIEL)


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