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2 years ago

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Thoughts on TWOTQ and why I don't get the anger. SPOILERS.

I was expecting a relationship to form between the three of them, more than just the joining. I feel like it was heavily foreshadowed the last two books? It explains how strong the bond between a bonded pair is. They talked about how much Kieran and Cas loved each other after being bonded their whole lives, and that their relationship and love goes beyond the magical bond. Kieran felt Cas falling in love with her through the bond, and then that intense bond literally shifted onto her.

He's always been the only one Cas trusted with Poppy. He's always been more involved and worried about Poppy than any of their other friends. When the Gyrms attacked for the first time he tried to keep her from fighting, because he was scared she was going to get hurt. They watched each other on the beach, and Cas teased her about it. Kieran and Poppy tease and taunt each other, Kieran always knows what she's thinking. He held Poppy while Cas fed and it got physical, and while she fed from Cas and it got more than a little physical. He was the one who helped Cas ascend her, just as desperate and scared of losing her, and bathed and watched over them while they slept. None of the other friends, it's always been Kieran.

And this is from when they made Kieran their advisor: Valyn’s gaze flicked to Kieran. “He is a good choice.” He squeezed Casteel’s shoulder, and I was relieved to see the gesture. “For both of you.” There was a pause as he looked at his son, clearing his throat.

And when Cas got captured they needed each other. They both love Cas so much, and they needed each other to survive the pain. Casteel repeatedly says he knows Poppy is going to be okay, because she has Kieran. How happy he was that they had each other to get through this. And when they rescued him? He was happy Kieran is the one who fed her. He held Kieran close. Both Poppy and Cas think about how while they're heartmates, their relationship with Kieran was something different but more than friendship. And he notices Kieran's softness and their evolved relationship/casual touches, and isn't angry or concerned at all. He even jokes that Kieran is thinking about taking Poppy in the armor as well.

I think a lot of the anger comes from some people reading the relationship as friendship the entire time, because they never considered a poly relationship. So this came out of nowhere to them. Which I understand if it's not something you read about often! But if you look back on the books and interactions, in my opinion, the relationship was progressing from the moment they took Poppy.


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2 years ago

after perusing twitter for a bit, i have stuff to say so have some more twotq content.

what we're not gonna do is be fucking racist because you don't like the joining. if you can't criticize it without using slurs, then shut your goddamn mouth.

what we're also not gonna do is twist canon around.

the joining was always implied to have sexual undertones. it just was. it was set up that drinking blood from someone can be a sexual experience.

casteel and keiran are basically soulmates. casteel trusts keiran with poppy. he always has. this idea that he walk cucked or betrayed is fucking stupid and degrading to their relationship.

poppy, cas, and keiran have been in sexual situations together.

keiran heard cas finger poppy in the forest, the night of the wedding, when poppy woke up from her assention. their dynamic has never not had at least touches of sexuality in it. it's simply a fact.

i mentioned it in another post but i really think that these ideas of monogamy as the only true form of love that are so ingrained in our society are really what's pushing this victimization of cas and it's fucking ridiculous.

all three of them wanted it, and their dynamic really didn't change afterwards.

a giant portion of the fandom is just blowing this so far out of proportion. it would be funny if it wasn't so frustrating.


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2 years ago

TWOTQ SPOILERS:

If you are worried about the joining please read the book first.

See for yourselves. Don’t listen to the other reviews about it.

Once you do you will see many things wrong with everyone complaining about the joining happening.

1. Kieran and Poppy were not a thing before they got Casteel. Kieran would comfort Poppy not flirt with her. He is affectionate towards her because that is his best friend/ ex bonded partners wife and heart mate. Because of those things he loves her in his own way. I do not personally think that it is sexually romantic. It is more that he loves her in a respectful awe inspiring way. They have a respect and love for each other through Casteel. Maybe because Casteel and Kieran were once bonded there is some connection to why poppy and Kieran feel so loyal to each other.

2. They did the joining out of necessity to keep Kieran alive. Did you all miss that? They did it for Kieran. While having the conversation poppy said that if Kieran found someone he wanted to be with they would go through the joining again. Which I think is foreshadowing Kieran finding someone he will end up with.

3. After the joining is done and they all separate we see that Poppy and Casteel have their own room without Kieran. They do things without Kieran. If they were going to be a throuple don’t you think that they’d invite him? If JLA wanted them to be a throuple she would have had them fuck again?

4. Yes we do see Kieran have feelings for Poppy afterward. We don’t know if they will escalate. We don’t know if they are carnal feelings. He could just simply be in awe of his queen/primal. I personally cannot see them being sexual. Just because they fucked during the joining doesn’t mean they will again.

5. Kieran Poppy and Casteel have cuddled before. You guys are making a friendship sexual when it doesn’t need to be. Like the 3 of them needed each other before the whole ending and that’s what happened. Also if they wanted to fuck again they would have then but Kieran told everyone to go the fuck to sleep.

6. Casteel and Poppy are heartmates so it goes way deeper and it means way more then anything else. I do not see JLA making Poppycas into a throuple I’m sorry.

7. JLA Literally wrote about the joining for the past two books and you didn’t see it coming? Like she even brought up a 3some in Willa’s diary. Everything JLA writes has a purpose. You look back in FBAA and you can see everything has lead up to this moment. And even the ending of this book.

If you stop reading the series go ahead. No one is making you read these books. JLA is the writer and she can do what she wants it’s literally her world.

What isn’t okay is taking away her creative freedom and making petitions to get her to rewrite a story she doesn’t have to write. She literally could have said fuck you all and killed Casteel to make room for Kieran but she didn’t.


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3 years ago

Book quotes that made me believe in love again<3

•His lips come too close. “But I love you.”

“No you don’t.”

His eyes close. He leans his forehead against mine. “You have no idea what you do to me.”

“I hate you.”

He shakes his head very slowly. Dips down. His nose brushes the nape of my neck and I stifle a horrified shiver that he misunderstands. “God I’d love to just take a bite out of you.”

~Aaron Warner to Juliette in shatter me. He then proceeded to kiss her because love<3

•“You're my sister," he said finally. "My sister, my blood, my family. I should want to protect you"—he laughed soundlessly without any humor—"to protect you from the sort of boys who want to do with you exactly what I want to do."

~Jace Herondale to Clary Fray,, love between siblings is so rare these days :')

•“I do so prefer hand-to-hand combat with you,” he said, catching my other wrist when I swung my fist down. “I like how close it brings us, Princess.”

I shrieked my frustration—my irritation—at him. At myself. “There is something so wrong with you!”

“Probably, but you know what?” He lifted his head off the ground. “That’s the part you like the most.”

~Casteel telling Poppy that he's getting turned on while she's trying to kill him. Who said romance is dead?

•“When you lick me,” he said roughly, “I want to be alone—far away from everyone. Because when you lick me, Feyre,” he said, pressing nipping kisses to my jaw, my neck, “I’m going to let myself roar loud enough to bring down a mountain.”

“And when I lick you,” he said, sliding his arms around me and tucking me in tight to him, “I want you splayed out on a table like my own personal feast.”

~my personal fav. Rhysand comparing his wife to food,, the same food that he gives her a choice in eating<33 100/10 love it. Mates 4 life.

•"There is nothing that I can give you. Nothing I want to give you. You are not owed an explanation for what I do outside of training. I don’t care what you have been through or what you want to do with your life. The sooner you can sort out your whining and self-pity, the sooner I can be rid of you. You are nothing to me, and I do not care.”

~Rowan to Aelin while she's desperately looking for a friend. Awwww do birds say different stuff to the people they like? Love to see the representation<3

•James," she said. "You don't love me."

He rose to his feet. He was no longer kneeling, and she was glad for it, but he was still close to her-- so close to her she could have reached out and set her palm against his chest.

"No," he said. "I don't."

She knew that. Hearing him say it still felt like a blow, unexpected and shocking, like the moment when you were stabbed. The surprise was how much it hurt.”

~James to cordelia,, such a beautiful scene. 1000/10 love it<333

•“There will be nothing left,” I whispered.

“No,” he said gently as he folded me in his arms. He pressed a kiss to the top of my hair. “I will strip away all that you know, all that you love, until you have no shelter but me.”

~Aleks tryna get the girl by murdering everyone she knows :')) play lover by Taylor swift<3

•"Did you . . ." Luke coughed and his lips glistened red. "Did you love me?"

Annabeth wiped her tears away. "There was a time I thought . . . well, I thought . . ."

"You were like a brother to me, Luke," she said softly. "But I didn't love you."

He nodded, as if he'd expected it. He winced in pain.

~My boy Luke flirting with a 16 year old while bleeding to death :)) he's the definition of dedication. Spoiler- he doesn't get the girl.

•“You came back for me.”

“I protect my investments.” Investments.

“I’m glad I’m bleeding all over your shirt.”

~Kazzle Dazzle calling the girl he likes an investment. Guys take notes<3


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