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Hello! So we share the same opinion. I got really surprised.

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Saving everyone money to read Madhouse.

So let me tell you how the 4 timelines of Pokemadhouse works!

In this post i explained about the 2-82 universe, from the oficial list made by lily of Pokemadhouse AUS, that in total are 3.

These 3 actually.

So lets give a resume from the 4 timelines:

Prime Timeline: Pokemadhouse

This is the original comic timeline, the timeline where all events of the comic happened, and the one that "Matters" in a way.

The best timeline according to Lily, where they are all ok, having happy lives and doing what they did in the comics.

2-82 Timeline: G Brainwashes Lily

This is the Timeline from the explanation i gave before: A timeline where G Brainwashes Lily to make her her wife and turns her into a puppet wife. Its a timeline hated by both Prime!G and Prime!Lily, because they know the G from this timeline is a monster but cant do nothing because its alternative timelines rules or something similar. Either way, very few info is given about this timeline, the main thing known is that the G in this timeline is blantaly evil.

Detail: The number of this timeline is a reference to Gardevoir number Pokedex, reinforcing the ideia of G being in control of everything.

1-3 Timeline: G Dies (TW: Death Mention, Abuse Mention, Depression Mention)

This is the saddest timeline from the 4. According to it, in 2017, around the same time Lily was dating Lizzy (Called Kirsten in the comics and refered as a monster in all timelines), G died somehow. Her death affected Lily in a very bad way, because 3 years after her death she was still incapable of reforming her life, so she just had a depressive breakdown.

She gave away all her pokemon, left behind all her friends and locked herself at her own home, not leaving for anything. Its implied that she has a relationship with someone abusive because in the wiki its said that her bag eyes are Actually BLACK EYES.

Oh and the icing in the cake: G in this timeline is a Ghost. Not a Ghost type or a poltergeist but a literal ghost no one can see or touch, that haunts Lily trying to find a way to help her, but she cant. So all she can do is stay with her.

The Timeline number, 1-3, is a reference to the number 13, because this timeline is also called Bad Luck AU.

4-20 Timeline: G and Lily are Stoners

This is the calmest Timeline of the 4, and the only one where the original Owner of the Madhouse is still living his happy life. On this AU, G and Lily basically decided to travel by themselves in a hippie-like style. All they do usually is smoke weed, pot, and chill out. The title of this timeline is a joke about 420 (Too obvious)

But in this timeline its also implied that G and Lily did the "Deed" after getting extremely High, an event in the comics that its called the "Microwave Lamen incident", a mistery that was never fully explained what it was and probably never will because of them both being so fucking High all the time they dont seem to care about anything else.

In this timeline Lily dont have any other pokemon too.

That's the 4 timelines, thank you for reading until here, now im gonna back to my life.

Peace

https://www.tumblr.com/lily-orchard-stuff/767748338287362048/looking-back-at-madhouse-it-really-was-just

So according to Lily's own commentary on her comic, for a long time Madhouse was just about how cool it would be to have a psychic best friend, then it was about making fun of people who wanted to fuck Gardevoirs, then it was therapy about people who develop feelings for people too easily trying to move past that, then G and the Violate arc were a reflection of Courtney abusing Lily, then the comic was always about Lily not wanting to fuck a Gardevoir and they were never getting together, now that whole arc is a funny, spontaneous will-they-won't-they.

Like these are all different things. These are all different stories with very different authorial intents behind them. And to the first person to ask why this matters: because despite trying to pin this on 'ADHD', it's actually Lily shifting around the meta framing of the story to feel out the explanation that best serves whatever public persona she's most invested in presenting at the moment, which is exactly how she's handled every controversy from Stockholm to Tara Callie to Courtney.

“—it's actually Lily shifting around the meta framing of the story to feel out the explanation that best serves whatever public persona she's most invested in presenting at the moment, which is exactly how she's handled every controversy from Stockholm to Tara Callie to Courtney.”

YES, THANK YOU. That is exactly what she’s doing, cherry picking whatever narrative suits her self-interest best. It’s so… Agh. I hate it.

Anyways, here’s an old screenshot of Lily posting art of Madhouse!Lily and G being married.

For full context of this: This is actually an AU inside Pokemadhouse made by Lily. She made 3 AUs in total, and they all are messed up on their own ways. Trigger warning about this one: R4pe mentioning, S3x mentioning and Brainwashing.

The AU in the picture is one of the most terrifying ones, and G says its the one she hates most because "Lily isnt herself anymore".

In this AU, G used her powers to coerce and hypnotize Lily into having S3x with her, and kept doing it until eventually she brainwashed Lily into being her perfect wife, by normalizing into her the relationship of both human and pokemon.

They only have one canonical apparition in the comics, appearing on Violate Arc alongside the other 2 AUs themselves. Besides that, almost all info about them come from asks and wikia pages.

The reason i consider this AU to be the worst its because of the implications of the own comic by claiming the Lily that comes from this AU is just a puppet being controled by an abusive creature and its probably incapable of coming back so i am like:

https://www.tumblr.com/lily-orchard-stuff/767748338287362048/looking-back-at-madhouse-it-really-was-just

So according to Lily's own commentary on her comic, for a long time Madhouse was just about how cool it would be to have a psychic best friend, then it was about making fun of people who wanted to fuck Gardevoirs, then it was therapy about people who develop feelings for people too easily trying to move past that, then G and the Violate arc were a reflection of Courtney abusing Lily, then the comic was always about Lily not wanting to fuck a Gardevoir and they were never getting together, now that whole arc is a funny, spontaneous will-they-won't-they.

Like these are all different things. These are all different stories with very different authorial intents behind them. And to the first person to ask why this matters: because despite trying to pin this on 'ADHD', it's actually Lily shifting around the meta framing of the story to feel out the explanation that best serves whatever public persona she's most invested in presenting at the moment, which is exactly how she's handled every controversy from Stockholm to Tara Callie to Courtney.

“—it's actually Lily shifting around the meta framing of the story to feel out the explanation that best serves whatever public persona she's most invested in presenting at the moment, which is exactly how she's handled every controversy from Stockholm to Tara Callie to Courtney.”

YES, THANK YOU. That is exactly what she’s doing, cherry picking whatever narrative suits her self-interest best. It’s so… Agh. I hate it.

Anyways, here’s an old screenshot of Lily posting art of Madhouse!Lily and G being married.

slight orrection to that last anon’s ask: gyra (the male pokemon in a relationship with his trainer) was not a gallade, but a male gardevoir.

which makes this funnier (in a horrible way), because lily hates gallade for being “unnecessary” and claims that it only exists because people can’t accept that gardevoir can be male. and yet the only male gardevoir in her comic is in an illegal relationship, is traumatically separated from his partner by the main protagonist, and spends the rest of his days suicidally depressed in a sanctuary— all in service of comic!lily’s backstory. he doesn’t even appear in the comic outside of a passing mention during the lead-up to bonnie, and no one appears to be remotely sympathetic to his situation.

according to the wiki, apparently comic!lily told g about him, but she made it all about how the nikolai/gyra case made her re-evaluate her perspective on pokemon/trainer relationships.

There's also a thing from The old blog of hers that it was a full scene she wrote where C!Lily basically preaches to a girl and a Gardevoir how their relationship was actually abusive even if it was all consented because it was a "Power Play", like even if they loved eachother she was her trainer and she was a pokemon "Enslaved" by her, so even if there was a real relationship its still abusive. So she literally threatens to give them the same fate Gyra had if they dont break the bond and if she not release her Gardevoir in 24 hours, and when the Gardevoir tried to fight back G just did a Syir and while holding her throat with her claws reinforces what lily said.

I need to find the print on my gallery but its a very big hipocrisy from her.

Also you know what I find funny? Lily had no issue punishing the male trainer and his Gallade for being a couple (to make her oc look good of course) despite being consensual (not going into the whole b.s) and then turn around and leave Diane with her abuser Syir.

Tell me that you don't like gay men without telling me.

Its even worse when you remember that the house was his so not only she ruined his life she also stole his property

Gosh thats dark as shit

Let me get this straight; Lily made Diantha's Gardevoir into abuser and Diantha into her victim just to make one of her self-insert look more sympathetic?

Yep. She did.

Honestly, with how Lily glazes Gardevoir but craps on Gallade, the ultimate victory to me would be defeating Syir with a team with Gallade on it. Possibly serving as a mirror, by having a legitimate bond (not a mating bond, because I think that thing is dumb) with his trainer. I just think it'd be cool. (Since a different anon posted their team, mine would be Aegislash, Ceruledge, Corviknight, Scizor, Gallade (has Shadow Sneak as an Egg Move to exploit Gardevoirs ghost weakness ) and Crobat (it doesn't match the others with the knight theme, I just think it's neat and I usually consider it my partner Pokemon. Also has Infiltrator for barriers and has Brave Bird as an Egg Move)

I much say, having both a Crobat and a Gallade on this team would make a funny combo on both being without much advantage against Gardevoir but still winning

Specially because to me the friendship evolution bond is better than this mating bond thing

Good team also

My personal head canon is Diana is saved from Syir by N who beats her with a legendary.

Translation: So i had the brilliant ideia to imagine this is Canon

Why is Syir so powerful anyway? Why is such an unstoppable, Uber OP Villain in a (supposed) slice of life comic? And is it even explained how Syir got so strong? But yeah, she probably would say that Syir can't get knocked out, for some unexplained reason. Which is such bad writing.

(Also my team would be a Kingambit, Tinkaton, Pyukumuku, Mimikyu, Scizor and: Slaking for Trace, or a Gliscor w/ poison heal for synchronize.)

Once she said she originally wanted Pokemadhouse to take a "Grimdark" turn with things like Syir not being uncommon, but she gave up on it.

A thing about her writing these op characters is that she hates when People try to find ways to Beat them, so she turns them almost invincible. Check Tale of Valkyrie for example: Ryder and the Val'kyrs were capable of destroying literal Multiverses alone and there was nothing People could do to stop them. Aliana in Sith resurgence is literally this beast of a Force User and no one is strong enough to stop her. Pokemadhouse i already said.

She loves power fantasy, her characters being the strongest and the fiercest. And mixed with bad writing of her, is a hazard.

Also very good team

my (admittedly self-indulgent) “true ending” scenario to madhouse starts with syir being defeated and taken into league custody away from diantha. how did this happen when syir is supposedly undefeatable? well, if lily is allowed to find a reason for bonnie to exist without any real repercussions within the story, the i say we can absolutely find a reason for diantha to be saved in rewrites/“what-if” scenarios

I think im having an ideia

Actually i had this ideia, but never managed to continue it

Maybe its time to continue my fic where my oc Bernard defeats Syir with his team.

I feel even the "attack the trainer" thing could be countered. The trainer doesn't necessarily have to be there. Depending on the Pokemon they could wear an earpiece or talk telepathically. Maybe the trainer could use a hologram and give orders that way.

As for the getting moves from WoW, I'm sorry, but that's bullshit plot armor at it's worst. But w/ that psychic nuke attack, Dark Types resist psychic, Protect would protect, etc.

But in this rant I just realized another way to defeat Syir. A ditto. It would copy her stats and moves including the bs Warcraft ones.

I know Lily would still come up with something to make Syir unbeatable, like they can't be copied somehow, or something else she pulled out of her ass.

I used to have a headcanon on her using that Nuke Attack and a Focus Sash Alakazam or Hypno just uses Disable on her, giving enough time for both Skuntank and Scizor finishing her with a combo of their attacks.

But knowing Lily there would be some ass-pulling on her being incapable of being knocked-out or Something. Its shit like that would ruin the entire history.

Reading through what others are saying about Pokémadhouse stuff as someone who knows way too much about all aspects of the pokemon world is such a painful experience. The Syir stuff is especially frustrating because not only is C!Lily giving an abuse victim Back to Their Abuser, but I don't buy the fact that a Gardevoir would be too powerful to stop. I know it's her fav and all, but she glazes up their strength to an absurd degree. When I first read that, off the top of my head I thought of several ways to take down Syir. Like using Destiny Bond or a pokemon that would resist their moves like a Mawile or Metagross. Plus those two I listed could mega evolve so they could counter Syir if they somehow mega-evolved.

I don't know any specific excuse Lily said other than "Syir's too strong" but I guarantee that there's a counter. Her ability is Trace? Send in a slaking. She puts up barriers? Get a pokemon with Infiltrator. She somehow out speeds and instantly one-shots all pokemon regardless of stats? Focus stash. Also I know gen 9 wasn't out, but a full team involving a Tinkaton and Kingambit would absolutely crush Syir, unless you know Lily keeps giving her plot armor, all to justify giving an Abuse Victim Back To Her Abuser.

And you know that if any show she hated pulled this storyline off, the exact same way, just w/ different characters, she'd be slamming it about "coddling abusers" and similar language.

Sorry for ranting, it's just something that's bothered me for a while after reading that. And if anyone doesn't know anything about Pokemon this is probably incomprehensible😅. What was even the point of the Syir stuff anyway? Like why'd she make such an OP Super Strong Gardevoir that no one can defeat? I know it's to show "G if she gave in" but like, ok, but that doesn't explain why she's so OP?

Its fine to rant, i feel the same way

If i am not wrong, there's something about Syir not following the normal pokemon rules, like instead of focusing her attack on the pokemon she would straight up attack the trainer. There's also the fact that in Pokemadhouse Gardevoirs have these "Original Attacks that were stolen from Warcraft". For example, Syir attack is called Psycho Blast, which was also on the wiki of Pokemadhouse, that was literally a Nuke Attack full of Psych Power. And Lily dont know how to keep the history linear, because the abilities of Syir changed between Trace, Synchronize or Pixilate, wich would frustrate even more those who wanted to stop her.

Syir is one of the worst characters i have ever found on a webcomic lore, and im still grateful for Lily decanonizing her in a possible rewrite.

But i would still trust in both Scizor, Sableye, Hypno and Slaking taking her

A fight like that would be awesome ngl

Gosh, I ended up falling down the PokeMadhouse rabbit hole and now all I want is for Diantha to be saved.

Me too, friend. Me too

Wait a minute this is Surrender to Madness from Poke madhouse?!

since it won't be coming any time soon, here's asylum!g's StM surrogate replacement form

Thinking of a name for it, running for 'Unshackled.' lots of chains and shit.

It hurts both Sandra AND Gardevoir to pull it off, but it provides a substantial overall boost to Gardevoir. They can't use it for much of a crutch, or any more than like once for a short time sometimes, it just hurts them way too much

About Syir, from Pokemadhouse

TW: Mentions of R4pe and Abu53

If you follow me for a while, must have seen my Pokemadhouse rage about Syir The Gardevoir.

But unfortunally i never explained WHY i hate her so much and why my blood boils when i talk about her.

So, here is the big explanation, in topics.

1-So, who is Syir and what did she do?

Syir is a character from Poke Madhouse, a now deleted pokemon comic made by Lily and Mikaila Orchard that talks about a pokemon world and the lives of their ocs and their pokemon in a house.

In this world Gardevoirs are the most dangerous and powerful species of pokemon, and Syir is a Female Gardevoir whose trainer is nothless than Diantha, The Kalos Champion.

And not only that, she and Diantha are implied on being in a relationship, wich in Poke Madhouse world is seen as the worst crime a person can do, even if its consensual. Gardevoirs are the biggest victims in this, as Lily even said People call them "The Waifu Pokemon", and doesnt help they do a thing called Mating Bond, where they use their psych powers to fuse their lives together.

And in this case, if you think they have a very good relationship...

ITS NOT WHAT HAPPENS HERE.

Diantha in the comics is coerced by her Gardevoir into sexual relationships, even using her psych powers to rape her. And she cant escape or cut the bond, as Syir use it to control and track her, like a leash. Also, Syir kills anyone who discovers about the True nature of their relationship, and its implied in some comics that everyone knows the nature of their relationship but dont do anything in fear of getting killed next.

2-Why no one tried to stop her?

A thing from Poke Madhouse is that Gardevoirs are in risk of extinction and have very short lifespans because of excessive breeding to get perfect Gardevoirs and shinies (Basically Lily dissing People who do this). So they are an endangered species. Also, this was Lily decision, without any reason besides "why not?"

There were at least 3 People who gave reasonable plans to defeat her. Poison, Guns, attack with pokemons with type advantage. All good and reasonable things within pokemon universe. However, all Lily answered them was a meme.

This meme

Basically, the answer to everyone wanting to defeat Syir. Literally a "You cant" in form of a bad meme.

Lily says that Syir is too powerful and evil to be defeated, to the point there's nothing anyone can do. Even G and C!Lily couldnt. Hell even Bonnie cant stop her, lily said that if they met Bonnie would cry and hide.

Actually, this will be the final topic, the reason i hate her.

3-Snitches get Stitches

In 2020, Lily added a thing in Madhouse wikia Page of Syir, currently deleted by her. She added a small lore info about Diantha and Syir.

Diantha one day managed to escape Syir and tried to find Help on the last person who tried to stop her Gardevoir: C!Lily.

C!Lily was an enforcer, a kind of pokemon cop, who really tried to stop Syir. However, Syir almost murdered both her and G, wich made C!Lily abandon all investigation she made, and made her terrified of Syir.

Diantha begged her for help, to find a way to save her. But C!Lily didnt wanted to help, because Syir threatened to kill everyone who she loved if she tried anything.

So what C!Lily did?

She gave Diantha back to Syir.

She GAVE. AN ABUSE VICTIM. BACK TO ITS ABUSER.

Now you get it why i feel so much hate towards her?

I dont care about any drama of hers, i cant EXCUSE THAT SHE WROTE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WANTS ME TO LIKE HER CHARACTERS.

TO LIKE G, C!LILY OR ANYONE ELSE.

She May have deleted the original pages and only left the nuke attack she gave to Syir.

But i will never forget what she did.

And i will never forgive.

Today i come here to say...

I FUCKING HATE SYIR! SHE IS AN ABUSER AND A MONSTER! AND THE AUTHOR RESPONSE TO ANYONE TRYING TO GET HER IS THIS:

And The fact Lily Orchard still didnt give her what she fucking deserves in Pokemadhouse. In The Wikia of Pokemadhouse is revealed Syir is ABUSING Diantha, and What The Main character do? NOTHING.

In fact is Very revolting that The Main character of The comic, C!Lily, LITERALLY SNITCHES AN ABUSE VICTIM BACK TO ITS ABUSER!

@Lily-Orchard you are an abuse Victim, right? Why are you letting an abuser Win? Its because its a Female one like YOU?!

The message you are passing with memes like these and The Wikia are That abuse Victims should not try to escape or call for help because NO ONE WILL HELP!

You think people hate you because you are trans.

But look at you fucking write.

Oh oh that's me they're talking about :)

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@spiderandmosquito

Yeah, i think I saw it and forgot to say it, thanks for bringing it up though. It makes me wonder what else ive forgot to bring up.