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I'm actually so fed up with the writing decisions taken this season. I recant my previous defense of Season 2 ep 2. As a fan of Stolas, the writing choices taken were awful.
The complete disregard of the development in episode 7 ( the best Helluva episode btw ) is not just annoying, but unsatisfactory. We are given the impression that Stolas might man up and stop chasing a prick who seemingly doesnt give a shit about him ( we know that Blitz obviously does, but Stolas does not ) but instead of keeping their interactions cordial and awkward/strained, they throw them right back into the horny bullshit they had before. I'm mad that the series wants us to root for stolitz ( which I DO ) without actually putting in the effort to show them repaire their "situationship".
What's the point in continuity? if I watched episode 5 and then watched season 2 episode 2, I would have ZERO clue that anything even happened between them. Vivzie is losing the plot (literally)
Vivzie is ruining Stolitz ( a ship that has insane potential to flip the switch and show two broken and hurt people grow TOGETHER. )
When we have to see them acting like absolutely nothing is wrong in ep 4 I'm going to pass out. Ridiculous.
( also random note, episode 3 was not funny. fucking at all. Brandon's 2017 humor really jumped out. Chaz's song got a chuckle out of me but that was it. it was tacky imo and Crimson is not only a fucking idiot but a terrible villain as well. )
If Vivzie makes the next episode the Stolas / Striker episode as seen in the trailer I'm going to be so fucking mad💀 The writing decisions she has been taking this season are abysmal. WE DO NOT NEED TO SEE STOLAS AND BLITZ INTERACTING LIKE NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THEIR RELATIONSHIP AGAIN. She needs to establish something with with Millie as a character first, hell, bring back the cherubs or something for episode 4 but my god can Stolas PLEASE get a break
Since when is Mrs. Mayberry is a lesbian?
Like, don't get me wrong, I don't mind she is a lesbian
What I don't get is how she literally murder her husband and went to hell for it. That her whole story of she ended up in jail.
A lot of people tried to make up for this by saying she could've been like stolas. She was forced by social pressure into dating/marrying a man.
Here the thing, again, she literally her murder her husband after finding out he cheated on her. She was crying while doing that action.
Other people also tried to say it because of the efforts she put into the relationship and the marriage as a whole to act straight it was all for waste since it was thrown out by her husband cheating on her.
Which is a fine prediction, however there no scene where she appears in that make me go, "Wow she driven insane by her husband actions of cheating after she forced herself to play the part of good straight wife."
Also, why she in a relationship with the woman her husband cheated on her with?????
Didn't Martha also have a husband and kids? What in the world happened to them!??
I'm gonna be real. I'm all up for the wife x mistress trope, but truly, I don't believe Mrs. Mayberry and Martha are going to have a healthy relationship at all.
I just wished spindlehorse would take more care and effort in their character sexuallity rather than just reusing and slapping on a random sexuallity.
You know what weird is it angel birthday sure? But it also molly birthday..his twin sister
Wait you so right!
I completely forgot about it being Molly's birthday, too! Honestly, now that I think about it, Viv and the fandom never really talk about her.
I get she not known character, but you think the creator would celebrate both characters on their birthday.
(Unless, of course, Viv decided to change Angel and Molly from being twins to being just siblings)
Did they just reveal everything big in season 2?
You know what weird? There are a lot of characters from HB and HH who have daddy/parental issues.
Hh:
Charlie, Angel, Alastor, and Abel
Hb:
Moxxie, Blitz, Octavia, and Stolas
Honestly, I feel like in season 2 or at some point of Hazbin Hotel, it gonna be revealed that both Alastor and Angel have daddy issues or parental issues.
And it doesn't help the leaks reveal that Abel has daddy issues as well.
(There are probably more characters that have parental/daddy issues that I probably forgot to include.)
But as a whole, the amount of daddy issues or parental issues as a whole is just really repetitive.
And it is not like the show writers are doing anything different. They always villianize the mom and make the dad a sympathy uwu twink or it the opposite where the mom was a total angel while the dad was just horrible.
It always the same, like the only parents that we have seen that have been good to their kids and to each other has been Millies parents.
I kind of wish Viv would stop changing the lore on things
Like, don't get me wrong, changing lore can help show good development of your writing skills from where you started.
What I'm saying is that Viv has a habit of changing lore or a character base off a popular ship or theory. Not to mention, she has another habit of spilling too much about her story.
Take Sir Pentious and Cherry Bomb being in a relationship as an example. They were never supposed to be in romantic relationship, instead Sir Pentious was supposed to have feelings for Rosie.
However, the fandom started to ship Sir Pentious and Cherry together, Viv changed it so Sir Pentious would have feelings for Cherry.
I just wished altogether that Viv would step back from the fandom just a bit, so she can hopefully stop the need to change the lore of Helluva or Hazbin to please the fandom.
Viv never stops to surprise me
"I think the reason why I allowed my fans to call people a term used by nazi's is because I actually agree with them and that if you criticize my content you should be equated as an undesirable."
This is what I am reading from this, Viv is NOT escaping the neo-nazi allegations. If that lower half is "your answer" then I don't care. You are NOT helping yourself, you literally (And tell me if I am reading this right.) justified your fans neo-nazi ideologies by saying its deserved because criticals?
So you're admitting it's fine to neo-nazis as long as they don't criticize your work? Fucking lmaooo
Warning, there will be talks of spoilers of season 2 because I will be mentioning the leaks:
Every time viv says something is going to be the greatest thing she ever made or loves, it ends up being... how to put it lightly... really, REALLY rushed or bad.
Like I'm seeing the different ways on how the season will be rushed. Due to the leaks, we know that Alastor will be kidnapped by Vox at some point, so I totally see Viv and the writers rushing to get to that plot faster.
So the less interesting plot points are left in the dust until Viv and the writers remember about it and quickly have to include it in some way.
"I care about sa victims!"
Viv, you literally lied about one of your employees being a victim of sa to win a petty Twitter fight.
And not to mention, that person you said was a victim of sa, they shipped your character angel with their r@pist!?!
I do want to give a benefit of a doubt that maybe Viv didn't know or misunderstood and thought that Raphielle was a victim of sa.
However, at the same time, it is hard to do so. Because how come Viv didn't double-check to make sure what she was saying was true?
And if Raphielle was really a victim of sa, Viv shouldn't have brought that up without their permission. Imagine going on Twitter and seeing your boss saying you were a victim of sa to prove a point in a petty fight.
All-around unprofessional behavior coming from Viv in this situation.
■ I don't love how skinny she looks
■ her outfit is....okay? I mean it not the best but it not the worst. It just not giving sexy to me.
Overall, I like the pink and blue color scheme they picked out for her.
My slight edit/redesign of her:
■ I tried my best to give some of her chubbier body back, and I think I did a good job!
■ I made her have a more sexier pink outfit...why? Because we don't have a lot of sexier merch or merch in general of the fat characters we have in Hazbin or Helluva.
I just got the chance to see the valentine merch and I have to say I'm not really impressed.
If I have time this week, I might make some posts discussing what I did and didn't like about the merch.
Did anyone else forget about this necklace?
Like this piece of information is so forgettable! This jewelry can protect the user who wears it, but it has never been mentioned again since this short.
There are so many questions I have!
● How does the merch company know how to make this?
● Is the company owned by heaven? (Or the very least angels)
● Does anyone else know this type of jewelry exists?
● Is there more jewelry like that out there?
Honestly, I wished they played more with this idea. Instead of a stort, it was a full episode of I.M.P trying different ways to kill her.
It starts with blitz because he believes it is going to be a normal, easy job that he can do by himself since moxxie sick, millie on a another kill job, and loona is busy with getting clients schedules to work. However, over time, he calls for backup one by one.
It goes millie, loona, and finally a very sick moxxie.
Blitz - "Mox, I gonna be real you look like shit."
Moxxie - "Thank you, sir... now what the problem? All I see is a normal human girl."
Loona - "That normal human girl necklance is literally helping her survive every trick we got on killing humans."
Millie - "We have tried everything! We tried the axe trick to-"
Blitz - "To the rope trick I did at your guys' 1st date."
Moxxie - *blowing his nose* "Then why I'm here? You couldn't use the Grimorie to find more information?"
Loona - "We already tried to find more information on the necklace in the Grimorie, but we couldn't find anything other than the user willingly has to take off the necklace."
Then Moxxie goes up to Emberlynn, then we have the exact same scene in the short where Emberlynn is, "Oh demon, you here for little old me~? But instead of Blitz, it Moxxie
After all that, she takes off the necklace for Moxxie, and Loona/Blitz is like, "we wasted the entire day for this when we could've called Moxxie ages ago."
And Millie is being held back from stabbing Emberlynn even more.
So, to be honest, do we even know stella species supposed to be? I mean, her brother is a peacock, but stella looks nothing like a female peacock.
> I took the 3 biggest guesses on what she supposed to be swan, peacock (peahens), and secretary bird to see what matches her more
> stella beak matches the swan beak
> her long eye lashes matches sercerty bird long eye lashes
> stella dress I put a question mark on because it quite a hot mess of feathers that could be all 3
> stella arm sleeve remind me of the servertary bird legs
> her hair reminds me of when peahen show off their back feathers like the male peacock. But halfway though, I decided that sounded insane, so I also put a question mark on her, saying it could be all 3.
I decided to include pilot stella and see how much she looked like a peahen.
> I realized the crown thing both pilot and canon stella wear could be based on crown looking thing on top of the peahen head
> her face marking where it goes down her face really looks peahen face markings
> again, with my theory, her hair is based on peahen showing off their back feathers like the male peacock
> pilot stella eyeshadow matches the blue on peahen neck
> the gray on her dress also match the gray on peahen body
> the white on stella matches peahen white as well
My theory:
I do believe pilot stella species is peahen, but when they started to redesign her for the show, the team decided to make her a hybrid of some kind.
However, while typing this, I realized if stella is a hybrid, that means her brother andrealphus is a hybrid as well.
Unless, of course, andrealphus is her half-brother or stepbrother. But the show does implied they are blood related.
So, I'm also leaning towards stella is actually a peahen. The team just had difficulty designing her to look like one, so they just picked the best one.
Does anyone remember that velvette supposed to be a witch/potion maker?
I sure didn't!
I was checking her wiki because I wanted to include something about her during a conversation with my friend.
And I read about how she made love potions with the help of Valentino. And then I remember the whole she is a witch/influencer/fashion designer.
I don't know whether making her have a talent in potion making is a good idea when everyone forgets. Or it mashed in with her other stuff.
Conference post
How come loona has so many forms?
Like aren't hellhounds supposed to be the lowest class in hell hierarchy?
I mean, it would make sense if she learned all these forms from the book, but it never stated to be case
So, like, all hellhounds have this many forms and somehow lower class under imps?
And if this is the case, hell hierarchy makes little to no sense to me. Because how is magical species of dogs with many forms lower than another species of hellborn with no powers.
Sometimes, I wish I had never learned to read... because then I wouldn't have to read this nonsense
I mentioned before in another post, but Millie is obviously stressed because one now she can't do her job because it is stressful and dangerous (things you should avoid while pregnant)
Leaving moxxie as the sole provider until she is ready to come back and work. Pride + hell as a whole is a very expensive place to live, and her not getting paid for a month doesn't help to soothe her worries that she can have a kid and not worry about money.
Like, yeah, business is great, but how long until the next big bad decide to ruin that for them?
Second, it also obvious that Moxxie and Millie never had a talk about whether or not kids were something they wanted at the moment.
So she worried how a kid will impact their relationship. Because kids can really make or break your relationship.
Another thing I should mention again is their job is really dangerous. Their field creates many enemies, so the baby safety is always at risk.
Not only that, Imps are basically humans, they can die from an injury. So what will happen if Millie and Moxxie died during a mission? who takes care of the baby? Who will make sure the baby is safe?
There are a lot of stressful/painful what if you have to consider, especially in place like hell where anything can happen.
So, it obviously Millie called Sallie for support not because Sallie is the baby other parent.
https://www.tumblr.com/strangegardendelusion/771083289809338368/no-because-that-is-a-insane-take-she-is-a
"So we all collectively agree that Octavia is dead to us, right"
Me: https://youtu.be/P_n1ekWd0Q4?si=Z6oznNO7GcMV3RV8
Yeah, there are no "we" in agreement with her video
Almost all her comments disagree with what she has to say
(I do want to mention she is entitled with her opinion. And even though I and many others disagree, she is absolutely entitled to her opinion. I just hope she open to hearing what others have to say about her opinion. Since many creators sometimes make a big deal when someone disagree with their opinion)
NO!?!? BECAUSE THAT IS A INSANE TAKE!??!
She is a child, and stolas is an adult who has made his bed and has to deal with the consequences of said choices
(Even though I admit octavia, fears of abandonment have been shown and resolved way too many times. I blame the show writing for not giving her more to do other than being a plot device)
It has been proven time and time again that octavia is not the most confident in believing stolas won't abandoned her and run off with blitz
And what does stolas do with his actions without hesitating to prove his daughter wrong and he will never leave... abandoned her and left to save blitz life
Then, once he begins his new life with blitz, he forgets about her until the mention of rats got him to remember to call her.
(Honestly, I was confused later on when stella was like, "he trying to call all month." So, like, did stolas forget about via only that day or week? The timeline is very confusing.)
Once again, proving his fantasies with blitz are more important than octavia.
A good father would be doing everything he could to make sure he gets his daughter back as fast as possible. Especially if his daughter is in the custody of two people who try to kill him.
He would be getting a lawyer, trying to get court to rehear everything out, and of course, try to get his daughter forgiveness even if it takes years to rebuild.
But stolas does nothing but cry because he poor the entire episode...
These are my guesses on why abel is blonde
1st
Either "Eve is lilith" or "Eve looks just like lilith" theories are canon
Or
2nd
Lucifer and Eve had an affair making abel lucifer bio kid
Honestly, by way things are going with the writing, the insane amount of cheating, and how it is handled in both shows (especially Helluva)
I feel like it is going to be a mixture of both theories that are gonna be canon
Where lucifer had an affair with Eve because he probably saw lilith in her and felt pity for her being adam wife
And abel is born out of the affair, and Eve never told lucifer. Rasing abel as adam son, adam of course knowing abel is not his, is probably the reason why he didn't like abel (in the leaks lute revealed that adam didn't care much for abel)
Then the show is going to make a plot twist of "abel is lucifer son! How could you have ever known??!?"
Making even more sympathy for lucifer character. Also, to villianize Adam even more without considering the possibility of making him a complex character.
For Eve honestly I'm little worry fans going to villianzie her. Fans are probably going to call her horrible for not telling lucifer he has a kid or something. And how it her fault for the entire mess.
Again, If Vivziepop wants to retell the characters or redesign them in her own way then that's perfectly fine by me but maybe don't make them look thin af or look like tumblr sexyman bait.
To my knowledge, abel died as a young adult/adult due to being murdered by his older brother, cain
But in my opinion, it is true he looks more like a kid than a young adult/adult, so abel may have died younger(?)
But I have no clue since hazbin has shown to be going in a different direction and changing a lot of things
Like adam is said to be the first soul in heaven. So, in the hazbin version, it implied abel was the second to die and went to heaven after his dad
But that just my guess since hazbin lore and timeline they are trying to lay out is just so confusing
I also hope abel is adam's kid, and the show doesn't try to pull off. "lucifer is actually abel dad, and adam isn't!"
I just saw abel design in the new Christmas pic, and I have to say, I did not expect him to be blonde
> I like his color palette
> Not gonna lie, He looks like that band kid that you sometimes have a chill chat with whenever you need someone to talk to
Now, my friend and I talk about abel design when the leaks came out. And we were not the biggest fans on him looking like a copy and paste of adam.
So, him being blonde is not the bad thing. It is just the fact it feels like we have a lot of blonde characters already. Why not give other colors a try.
I did black, brown, and ginger-brown hair colors to see how which one looked on him
> I did black because a lot of people think/headcannon eve has black hair color
> did brown for adam hair color
> I also did ginger-brown hair color since people also think/headcannon eve has this hair color
And out of the entire bunch, I have to say ginger-brown is my favorite! It matches the overall vibe of his character, and it goes great with his color palette.
I just saw abel design in the new Christmas pic, and I have to say, I did not expect him to be blonde
> I like his color palette
> Not gonna lie, He looks like that band kid that you sometimes have a chill chat with whenever you need someone to talk to
Now, my friend and I talk about abel design when the leaks came out. And we were not the biggest fans on him looking like a copy and paste of adam.
So, him being blonde is not the bad thing. It is just the fact it feels like we have a lot of blonde characters already. Why not give other colors a try.
I did black, brown, and ginger-brown hair colors to see how which one looked on him
> I did black because a lot of people think/headcannon eve has black hair color
> did brown for adam hair color
> I also did ginger-brown hair color since people also think/headcannon eve has this hair color
And out of the entire bunch, I have to say ginger-brown is my favorite! It matches the overall vibe of his character, and it goes great with his color palette.
The number of people I have seen talking about how millie cheated is so worrying 😟
Like, guys, Millie characteristic (for the longest time) is that she loves her husband
Why in the world would she cheat?
She probably stressed/worried for 2 reasons
● Imp won't let her do her job now since she pregnant
Since it is stressful and dangerous, the 2 biggest things you should avoid being pregnant
(And I realized while typing this that the writers are going to have stolas take over her job and work with imp in the human world)
● plus, it clearly implied that Millie and moxxie never talked about the idea of having kids. Or they did, but they planned to have kids more in the future
So it got Millie stressful on what moxxie reaction will be and what their life will look now with baby in it
How do you feel about the new episode
Honestly, I didn't plan to watch the new episode today since I'm both sick and busy.
But tiktok spoiled Millie pregnancy for me, and right now, I'm debating actually watching the episode to see what else is going to happen
Vassago character is just another character that wasn't really needed:
● his character doesn't add anything to the plot, story, or any of the characters as a whole
● Plus, the only character that is shown to really know vassago is andrealphus
Andrealphus and vassago argument sounded they knew each other and now hate each other
While..
When stolas is like, "the only way I know how...song."
Vassago loudly start saying, "Yes, Yes cantalo baby!"
Stolas looked at him as, "okayyyyyyy weird, but whatever."
If stolas was his friend or knew him, he would've been like, "Oh hey, vassago!" Or something like that
● as mentioned earlier, he contributed nothing to the trial/plot even though he was hyped up to be an important pivitol plot character for months
Only for him to say barely anything and only thing meaningful he did was saying that stolas was needed since this was his trial in way
But then nobody listened, and stolas ended up coming to basically just to save blitz life
Honestly, people always talk about Lucifer depression. But for me, personally, after his introduction episode, his depression is suddenly gone.
It's heavily implied he has been in a depressed state for at least 7 years. So, for it to suddenly disappear after he started talking to charlie it quite strange.
(I mean, I guess it because he became happier? But I don't know)
Not to mention his depression is also treated as a funny joke by a lot of fans
So, I just want to add before I end this post that even though the character is fictional, depression is not.
Depression can have a significant impact on a person's life, affecting their mood, sleep, appetite, and overall well-being. It's important to remember that depression is a serious mental health condition that affects millions of people worldwide.
Honestly, I don't see the point of Barbie's character for multiple reasons:
● she hasn't seen or mentioned since this episode
● We didn't even seen her reaction to the trial
● had no proper setup for her introduction
● We barely know anything about her, like how close she was with blitz
● Her relationship with her mom, dad, or fizz
Like, don't get me wrong, Barbie can be an interesting character if done right
But half the time, despite being the main character siblings and important enough that blitz track down where she was
She serves little to nothing to the plot or blitz character as a whole
Like we don't even canonically know how blitz ruined her life
a lot of people theorized that blitz burning down the circus that cause the destruction of their home/place of work
But we have no idea if these theories are true for all we know she could have care less of circus. Instead, she mad at blitz for causing the death of their mother.
andres dumb plan hinges too much on the idea of "stolas will come save blitz because he loves him and then hold himself accountable so i can take his legions! obviously!" when theres like. no implication that anyone really knows what blitz and stolas's relationship is, or that they even care about each other, especially not when stella said, "he finally realized that filthy little beast was only using him to gain access to his grimoire", like, what about that implies that stolas would give a shit if anything happened to someone who was "using him"? thats right - it doesnt! if andres plan had been properly executed in the stupid ass way he set it up in the episode, then blitz wouldve been executed, and fuck all wouldve happen to stolas after. if anything, hed be treated like a hero who was used unfairly by some low life, who was then slaughtered on tv to remind the lower citizens of hell not to fuck with the upper crust. imagine if that had happened, forcing stolas to go back to his home by himself; no stella since they divorced, no via since shes turning 18 soon, and no blitzy, ever again. maybe they shouldve just done that tbh, that way he could take over the show completely, since thats obviously what viv wants so damn bad. (also, stolas possible redemption arc when he realizes his actions actually DO have consequences!) or, i dunno, if she had the maturity to let other people look at her 3 year old script without surrounding herself with yesman, she mightve realized that she couldve kept EVERYTHING she wanted and still had the same ending, at the price of having stolas do the bare minimum and say, "he didnt force himself onto me, i.. forced myself onto him." the ending with all the imps hating stolas would make sense (because they know hes a rapist), blitz being able to even acknowledge any care he has for stolas might make more sense if he'd even SAY what he did wrong to blitz in front of EVERYONE important in hell, being a way to make up for his manipulative behavior and him hiding his face at ozzies, especially if stolas said, "i'm so sorry, blitz. for getting you into this mess, for everything ive done to you.." after blitz says thank you when they return home. (thats just the way i'd write it, because i cannot fucking stand that blitz says, "thank you, stolas, for saving my life," when blitz, at minimum, has saved stolas's life 3 TIMES AND HAS NEVER GOTTEN A THANK YOU ONCE BEFORE THIS POINT and was even INSULTED over saving him the best he could, because blitz needed to be there for his DAUGHTER first like a good dad, which is obviously something stolas has never comprehended since his sacrifice and willingness to die for his former forced sex slave in mastermind proves that, but stolas saves blitz twice, the second time being when hes holding himself accountable for his own actions that nearly got his "lover" killed to begin with? oh, heres a gold star, a thank you from the guy you forced to have sex with you to keep food on the table for his family, and a free imp to wash you just like when you were 12 i mean a totally not trauma bonded bf!)
Honestly, anon, interesting points all around! I didn't even think about all you said before you mentioned it.
Now, having blitz died is a very interesting idea
I mean, it would be very cool to see how each character reacts to his death, like having loona experience her sadness by turning it into anger and having millie and moxxie grieving with each other the best they can.
It would also be very interesting to see stolas hitting the deep end as he realized how his life is falling apart
I could see stolas trying to reach out to everyone blitz knew, and nobody wanted to do anything with stolas
From then on, the series would follow stolas as he deals with everything
So for mastermind, how come andrealphus kept painting imp as the villains and stolas as the hopeless victim
It has been made clear since his first appearance that andrealphus hates stolas and wants stolas job + money
Andrealphus should know painting stolas as the helpless victim would lead to stolas not getting punished
My guess is Viv + the writers wanted a romantic gesture to happen, where stolas would sacrifice his life for blitz, but they didn't know what to do to make that happen
So viv, if you knew that line was gonna trouble, why didn't you or your team add something to show that Satan was lying
I mean, one way you could have fixed it is by having Oz or Bee saying something about it instead of them looking awkwardly towards Lucifer chair and then to each other
This is how I would probably rewrite the scene to have Oz and Bee saying something about Satan lying
Satan says, "I am the mastermind, and here I am the law. I've ruled the endless dark since long before the golden angel's fall."
Oz quickly whispers to Bee. "Here he goes with his lying bs."
"I know! And it is not like anyone believes this. Everyone knows that Lucifer was here before any of us!" Whisper Bee
Then, before Oz could respond, Mammon loudly shush him
Is this a rewrite of this scene the greatest ever? Absolutely not
I tried my best, and I guarantee someone has a better idea of how to rewrite this scene. But this is how I would fix the scene.
If you guys have any ideas on how to rewrite this scene, please do tell!